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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
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Getting rid of a lead inst. in BIAD real tracks ...

Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

Just a quick question ... when using Real Tracks in BIAB 2010, if there's an instrument playing in the Real Tracks style that you select and you don't want it, is there a menu or way to get rid of that one instrument?

I'm working on a backing track and found a cool one that I'd like to use, but it has computerized pedal steel in it and I really would like to remove it from the mix.
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Post by Russ Wever »

Right-click the appropriate instrument
track then choose 'mute' to silence the
instrument you don't wanna hear.
~Russ
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

Thanks, Russ. Got it. :)

One last question ... on the drums for this particular piece, I want to keep in the brushes but remove the rim shot, cymbal crashes, kick drum and toms. Is that easily done?

I'm a total novice at this and this is only my third backing track so far. What I'm trying to do is make a backing track for "Sweet Memories" as close as possible to the chord progression, tempo and "feel" as the Time Jumpers with John Hughey. Here's a link to hear what I'm trying to go for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES6dOxN3mEo

While I've only touched on "auditioning" the available real tracks, so far the closest one I've found is one called _PBALADS Slo PopBal w Dreamy ElGt (65RS). I'm sure there's probably a closer real track in there, but this is the closest I've found so far.

Anyone have any ideas on how to create this? Ideally, what I want to end up with is something very like the Time Jumpers track with the brushed snare, acoustic, bass and the triple fiddles played in the manner of the Time Jumpers. Probably a tall order to fill, but it'd be a great backing track that I'd be happy to share with anyone who wants it if I can pull it off.
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Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Post by Ken Lang »

I have found that you can't tell the real track instrument what to play. It plays what it wants to, based on what you select. You could have 3 fiddle tracks, but they would not be playing together or in harmony, that I know of. I tried to take a real fiddle track and write the notes played, but it then became a midi track, and sounded like it. Not like the real track fiddle. And I couldn't convert it back to a real track.
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Post by Randy Brown »

I'm new to BIAB (using 2010 on Mac). When I mute particular instruments, it works for that session, but they seem to come back next time I open BIAB. Is there a way to permanently mute them (either a global setting, or a setting within the song file)?
Thanks!
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Post by Andy Sandoval »

Randy, two different ways to do it. One, go to file/save song with patches and harmony or hit alt+F2 keys to bring up the "assign instruments and harmonies to song" window and uncheck the instrument or instruments you want to disable and save the new settings. Refer to photo below.

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Two, go to edit/settings for current bar or hit the F5 key to bring up the "edit settings for bar" window, be sure the curser is in the first bar of your song if you want to mute the instrument for the entire song and click on the down arrow for the instrument you want to mute. Save the song with the new settings.


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Post by Randy Brown »

Andy, thanks for the quick and very clear reply! I love this forum!
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Post by Andy Sandoval »

Glad to help. BIAB is lots more fun to use when you learn a few quick tips and tricks.