What should I listen to??

Melinda Dauley · Post by **Melinda Dauley** » 15 Feb 2003 11:46 pm

Okay. I want to listen to somevery professional and very good steel players...maybe even soloists.
What do you guys & gals recommend for me to get?
Mulitple suggestions please!
Thanks.
Melinda

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Just remember: Bi-valves can't play steel. And if they ask, just say no.

Frank Parish · Post by **Frank Parish** » 16 Feb 2003 12:42 am

Buddy Emmons has a bunch of albums.
Lloyd Green
John Hughey
Doug Jernigan
Paul Franklin
There are many forumites that have their own albums as well. You can buy albums right here through the forum too.
Good hunting.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 16 Feb 2003 2:52 am

Well Melinda you are asking a question that will change your life even more than you realize.

When I first merged the Pedal Steel into my life in the early 70's I was basically a Country Rocker at the time. I listend to Rusty Young, Buddy Cage, John Call, Sneaky Pete..all those guys.

My friend, the now Dr. Marty Friedman from
NYC who played a Red Emmons D10 at the time came to my home with records of guys I never heard of.And he said..

...stop learning from those guys and start listening to and learning from these guys, cause' these are the guys those other guys are listening to and learning from. Make sense..? it did for me , as soon as I heard the Black Album..BE..of course..I knew what I needed to do..I went to Sam Ashe in NYC and came home with a Sho-Bud Pro III /D10/8+4.

Buddy, Lloyd, Hal, John H. , Weldon, Paul, etc..

Simplicity..Listen to the early Don Williams records..now there are some tunes that influenced me back then and still do today.

Another great favorite of mine which I have owned for 25 years and just started listening to again is Buddy Emmons with Shot Jackson, "Aces Back Together Again" the simplicity of the melody lines and brilliance of thier playing is second to non.

Now the only issue you may run into not far down the road , and I know we beat this topic up last week. When you attempt to learn some of those early Lloyd or Buddy phrases ( and you will want to ) on
your S-8...you will immediatly see why your new forum family was recommending a ten stringer with several knee levers.

So I say..keep the Fender S-8, its a valued treasure ( I actually have my eye on one here in NC ) but do consider another Steel such as an S-10 with extended levers so that when you are listening to all those great players on record , even from way back, you can sit at your Instrument and work out those phrases instead of look at your Instrument and wish you could work out those phrases.

Early Buddy and Lloyd pretty much is the reason this forum exists.

happy sunday

tp[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 16 February 2003 at 03:54 AM.]

Allan Thompson · Post by **Allan Thompson** » 16 Feb 2003 4:56 am

Hi Melinda,
Tom Brumley`s In Time album is well worth a listen, and Buddy Emmons playing Once Upon A Time In The West is my all time favourite.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 16 Feb 2003 5:12 am

Jerry Garcia.

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 16 Feb 2003 5:42 am

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 16 Feb 2003 6:03 am

Curly Chalker, Joe Goldmark, and Maurice Anderson.

Among the forumites, Bob Tallifer, Billy Easton, Bill Stafford and Jim Cohen. There are others here who have fine CDs but offhand I can't think of any.

JB Arnold · Post by **JB Arnold** » 16 Feb 2003 6:57 am

Jim-you beat me to it...

JB

See ya in Dallas...

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Mullen Royal Precision D-10 8 & 5
"All in all, looking back, I'd have to say the best advice anyone ever gave me was 'Hands Up, Don't Move!"
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www.buddycage.net

http://www.nrpsmusic.com/index.html

Doug Seymour · Post by **Doug Seymour** » 16 Feb 2003 7:17 am

Melinda, no one mentioned listening to Tom Morrell......but he picks! (very well!) & he doesn't always use pedals. Great technician!
& musician!

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 16 Feb 2003 7:56 am

I reccommend
"Slide" and "Northern Steel" because they each feature many great Steelers with various styles.

The "Northern Steel" CD even has liner notes that tell the brand of Steel on each track. With one CD you can hear MSA (with MIDI), EMCI, Emmons, Carter, Franklin, Fender Stringmaster, Rickenbacker Lap, Sho-Bud, and more. There are Rhythm Tracks availble for most of it, and Tab available for some.

FWIW, for me,
I happen to like Paul Franklin, since I play a lot of commerical country, and he defines it. So I've studyed lots of Alan Jackson's CDs.

Kenny Foy · Post by **Kenny Foy** » 16 Feb 2003 8:07 am

Bobbe Seymore--Bob Lucier--David Spiers--Buck Reid--Bill Stroud etc...

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 16 Feb 2003 8:15 am

: What should I listen to??

Anything in the forum catalog...that's a library of all kinds of steel music and musicians.

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 16 Feb 2003 8:18 am

among other things:
"Stop the Panic" Luke VIbert/BJ COle steel
"Vanduras" Gary Brandin on steel

The entire "Nightlife" album by Ray Price, with Emmons and Jimmy Day on steels.

The entire "The Other Woman" album by Ray Price, with Emmons and Jimmy Day on steels.

Buck Owens and the Buckaroos "Live at Carnegie Hall"

In Person-Charlie Pride live at Panther Hall with Lloyd Green

the cut "Crazy Man Crazy" by Robert Gordon...with Bobby Black on pedal steel; just drums, uprightbass and steel guitar- no 6 string on the cut...

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 16 Feb 2003 9:34 am

Melinda, you're just gonna have to listen to:
Everybody Here !

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Matt Steindl · Post by **Matt Steindl** » 16 Feb 2003 9:42 am

Flying Burrito Brothers- Sweetheart of the Rodeo.

I think most f the PSG was done on a Fender too, so that might be of interest to ya!

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Bobby Snell · Post by **Bobby Snell** » 16 Feb 2003 10:44 am

Speedy West! (Often paired with guitarist Jimmy Bryant)

Buddy Emmons
Lloyd Green
Jimmy Day
Sneaky Pete Kleinow

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 16 Feb 2003 10:56 am

Here's a website to a guy that played pretty much every note on a Fender steel similar to yours.
http://www.sneakypetekleinow.com/

If you are ever down in Portland, OR, drop a line and I'll let you know where myself or other local steelers will be gigging.
Pete B.

Melinda Dauley · Post by **Melinda Dauley** » 16 Feb 2003 1:05 pm

I have listened to Ray Price and Buck Owens! Oh yes! How could I avoid it? I love the night life so much. I think I have worn out at least 4 copies of it in my lifetime. It was in my mom and dad's record collection when I was little!
I wrote down all of the suggestions. Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it!
Keep em coming....
Melinda

erik · Post by **erik** » 16 Feb 2003 1:31 pm

I recommend The Desert Rose Band Geatest Hits CD. Their sound is close to the "Teach" tune you mentioned in the other thread, and Jay Dee Maness can be heard throughout it. He is a forum member and is currently with Vince Gill.

Bob Blair · Post by **Bob Blair** » 16 Feb 2003 4:32 pm

I was going to say Mooney, but if you have listened to a lot of Buck Owens you have heard both him and Tom Brumley. Bobby Black is a player who just kills me - he was with Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen for the lion's share of their albums. Try "Hot Licks, Cold Steel and Trucker's Favorites" and "Live From Deep in the Heart of Texas". I would love to get down to the Bay area and catch some of Bobby's live gigs - his schedule is usually linked to the Carter website.

Budd Kelley · Post by **Budd Kelley** » 16 Feb 2003 5:35 pm

Melinda,

Listen to players from outside your "musical preference" zone. If you are a "punk rocker" musician, you will find all sorts of new ideas and sounds in classic country. A country player can hear new stuff in a jazz recording - etc. You already "know" how your favorite music sounds. You already know how the licks should fit. Listening to another type opens up your ears and your imagination. You will also have a much larger list of players to hear.

Joey Gaskins · Post by **Joey Gaskins** » 16 Feb 2003 5:42 pm

Hi Melinda, for me it's the sound of Ricky Davis on Linda Leys new CD available from Cracker Barrell. It's traditional country with some great old type steel playing. You can listen to some of the clips at www.mightyfinemusic.com

Mike Baxter · Post by **Mike Baxter** » 16 Feb 2003 6:05 pm

Bob mentioned Ralph Mooney with Buck Owens. Ralph's later 'in-your-face'(?) style with Waylon Jennings appeals more to me (e.g. Waylon's 'Never Been To Spain' and many, many more).

In addition to the many 'greats' already listed, you may wish to listen to Bruce Bouton (along with guitar player Ray Flacke) picking up a storm with Ricky Skaggs - 'Highways & Heartaches'.

It's obviously a very personal choice, but it sounds like you are willing to keep your options open.

Bob Blair · Post by **Bob Blair** » 16 Feb 2003 7:27 pm

And listen to my good friend Neil Flanz on a fingertip Sho Bud, playing on the Gram Parsons and the Fallen Angles live cd. Solid Neil from the beginning to the end of that one, and he sounded just great.

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 17 Feb 2003 12:46 am

JODY CARVER---"Hot Club Of America"
VERY unique album! Jody,(along w/ Johnny Cucci,on lead guitar) have been described as the "Speedy West & Jimmy Bryant of the East Coast"!

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