Tommy White - Jan 11 Opry Archives (WOW!)

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 12 Jan 2003 2:30 pm

Just finished listening to the Opry archives from last night. Everyone should pull it up and go to 4:27:26. Tommy White was playing with Vince Gill and played an awesome intro and break on LOOK AT US!!! If you want to hear that beautiful red MSA, here's your chance.
http://www.wsmonline.com/page.asp?Page=47#

Respectfully,

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Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 12 Jan 2003 4:30 pm

I flipped my Korg tuner on while I was listening and Vince did "Look At Us" in the
key of "C" instead of "Eb" which he originally did it in. That created a whole different situation for Tommy. Great job
Tommy!!
Jerry

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 12 Jan 2003 4:39 pm

Ok everyone who listens to this incredible "break" by Tommy White. Are you ready for the ultimate question?

Are you sure?

Really?

No kidding?

You mean it?

Have you listened really good?

I mean really, really listened?

You say you did?

Ok, one more time; are you absolutely sure?

You say you are?

Ok then I have one last question of you.
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Put your thinking cap on ok.

Cuz you are gonna need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think your answer over very carefully ok?

NOw here is the question.
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Just how much of that unbelievable sound was in Tommy's hands and how much was in that brand new Millenium?

huh? What's that you say?

Don't ask me. I wouldn't touch it with a 100 foot pole. Are you able to say? If you are, you got more courage than I would ever have.

May God bless Tommy, Maurice, his staff and all of you,

carl

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 12 Jan 2003 4:49 pm

Shucks Carl, that question ain't hard!
Jerry

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 12 Jan 2003 5:22 pm

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 12 Jan 2003 6:10 pm

Well...you tell me!

I suppose there are some players here that think Tommy would have sounded just as good on an old single-neck Multi-Kord.

After all...if it is "all in the hands", who needs a good guitar?

(Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!)

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 12 Jan 2003 6:31 pm

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 12 Jan 2003 6:47 pm

Donny, I betcha there aint.

But you know what? I bet he could have gotten by just fine on one. Oh, and I bet you could too!!

Jerry[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 12 January 2003 at 06:49 PM.]

Recluse · Post by **Recluse** » 12 Jan 2003 7:38 pm

After playing the Millennium for a couple of weeks now my observations are that if I play poorly,(often)it sounds better than my other guitar. If I play average, (sometimes) it sounds way above average. If I get "the hands" (rarely) the guitar blossoms and has a stunning power and clarity. This guitar has an intrinsic sound that is amazing.

As I suggested before: Sell your children.
Steve Bailey

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 12 Jan 2003 9:26 pm

Ok I have a better question.....???
Guess what guitar Tommy White was playing??
Ricky

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 13 Jan 2003 3:32 am

It's a little off the beaten path but, did Vince's voice sound a bit under par or what?

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Dag Wolf · Post by **Dag Wolf** » 13 Jan 2003 3:40 am

Tommy`s playing are just incredible.

Obviously Vince have had catched a cold.

Dag

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 13 Jan 2003 11:49 am

If you want the Emmons sound you had better have Buddy Emmons hands. He is the only one who can get the emmons sound and I have heard him get it on a Maverick and also on a Legrande!!

Brian

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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 13 Jan 2003 12:04 pm

Interesting commment,

"I have heard him get it on a Maverick and also on a Legrande!!"

Wonder why Buddy Emmons said right on this forum,

"I stopped playing my Sierra, because I had a sound in my head that I just could not get out of it". (paraphrasing of course)

Also, mind telling us when and where you saw Buddy Emmons play a Maverick? And after you saw him play it, did he also do to the Maverick, what he did to a Fender 1000 one time after he got done playing? IE, He rared back and kicked it into the orchestra pit, because he was so upset with it? I had heard this story for years and felt it was just a rumor.

So one time at the ISGC, I plain out and asked him about it. He looked at me with that classic BE grin; and said,

"Well I expect it is true",

God Bless BE, you and all the rest of you folks,

carl

Ron Page · Post by **Ron Page** » 13 Jan 2003 12:25 pm

Ricky,

Since you asked the question, I'm betting it was NOT the Millennium. Derby or maybe a Sho-Bud?

I'll check back later for the answer.

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Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 13 Jan 2003 12:46 pm

On the televised portion, Tommy was playing the MSA. I doubt he would have set up another guitar for the latter part of the show, but I guess it's possible.

Respectfully,

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Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 13 Jan 2003 1:39 pm

Carl, FWIW, here is a direct quote from the Ask Buddy page concerning Sierra:

Re: Sierra Guitars
From: Buddy
Date: 02 May 2002
Time: 08:18:02

Comments
The Sierra guitar has a soft but deep acoustic resonance that few other guitars have, so it's my favorite for the C6 tuning.

Here is the link to that thread (scroll down to the date above): http://www.buddyemmons.com/board_toc.htm

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 13 Jan 2003 2:11 pm

WEll I don't know the answer to which guitar Tommy Was playing.
It didn't sound like anyone of his guitars I've heard.
It sounded like John Hughey's wood neck Push/pull Emmons; is what he made what ever guitar he was playing> sound like.
Tommy White is the true master of tone and technique.
Ricky

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 13 Jan 2003 2:19 pm

He was playing the MSA on the televised portion of the Opry. His hair may or may not have been acceptable. We will have to ask the Forum's own resident hairdresser wannabee.
My observation is that although the sounds of TW on the Opry over the last couple of years on a Derby, a Carter, and an MSA (I don't think I've heard him on his Sho-Bud) are not identical, they are close. They sound very, very much like Tommy White.

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 13 Jan 2003 2:21 pm

"The Sierra guitar has a soft but deep acoustic resonance that few other guitars have"

So then, I can only conclude that NOT even Buddy can get certain "deep acoustic resonant" sounds on most other PSG's, other than the Sierra!!

This then ties into what he said on this very forum; in answer to a question of why he was no longer playing his Sierra. Which I paraphrased in my earlier post.

I am going to go a step further. Let the flames and chips fall where they may. The sound a given player gets is NOT all in his hands. NO way is it. Some of it is of course.

Most of us would know it is BE playing; versus say a Lloyd Green or Paul Franklin, etc. in a heartbeat. But I contend that much of this "discern" is from their style of playin rather than the sound so much. IE, attack, choice of harmony, choice of phrasing and single notes verus multi notes along with WHAT strings and frets they chose to get certain notes and/or chords.

I further add, it is THESE things that are the distinguishing factors; RATHER than the actual tone/sound one gets from a given instrument. In other words "Buddy sounds the same on any instrument he plays", is not really true. I believe he would be the first to tell you this.

Different PSG's, affects and amps DO sound differently when played by the SAME player! There is NO question in my mind about this, albeit most can tell who it is playing amongst the pros even when they play different instruments.

carl[This message was edited by C Dixon on 13 January 2003 at 02:21 PM.]

Vernon Hester · Post by **Vernon Hester** » 13 Jan 2003 3:21 pm

I just pulled TW break from the Internet, and Boy Tommy did a nice job and the Red MSA sound was great, wish the audio man had pulled him up a bit.
Vern[This message was edited by Vernon Hester on 13 January 2003 at 11:27 PM.]

Tom Hodgin · Post by **Tom Hodgin** » 13 Jan 2003 4:12 pm

I think I'm getting dizzzzzzzzzy ///

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 13 Jan 2003 4:15 pm

Tommy played the Millennium all night, how do I know? I was there. As a matter of fact I played Tommy's Millennium on the 6:30 and 9:30 pm shows with Connie and stuck around till Tommy played the very last note.

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Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 13 Jan 2003 4:38 pm

I was listening in to the televised GOO from another room saturday night, and went running in thinking someone was playing a Sierra.
Sure enough... Tommy on the red Millenium.
Sounded fine to me.
Never thought when I bought my Sierra I'd be playing a "poor mans MSA" someday!

Carl, I thought the important part of that post was the stuff you left out...
ie. "...so it's my favorite for the C6 tuning."

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 13 Jan 2003 5:34 pm

Johnny, I went to the archive and clicked it toward the beginning to the right spot to hear to take off on the solo with Connie
singing "I'll Come Running To You". The guys should go find that one also. I'm sorry I didn't note the exact time it came on. You were getting some great sound out of the guitar. I did not know what you were playing but suspected it might be Tommy's MSA. You both did a great job on those two songs.
Jerry