Flying With Tools of The Trade

Bill Plemmons · Post by **Bill Plemmons** » 22 Aug 2002 10:35 am

Has anyone had problems carrying bar and picks on aircraft since 9/11 with the increased airport security. I'm flying to ISGC and would certainly hate to have my bar and picks confiscated. Some of you frequent flyers help me out. Thanks

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 22 Aug 2002 11:40 am

if you declare the wares that you consider threatening while boarding, they will be turned over to the captain of the aircraft and shall be returned to you upon arrival.
i turn in my Swiss army knife and get it back upon arrival.
a Steel bar can be a mean A$$ weapon !
[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 22 August 2002 at 12:41 PM.]

Al Vescovo · Post by **Al Vescovo** » 22 Aug 2002 11:43 am

Bill, I would suggest that you put your Implements in your luggage or if you only have a carry on put it through the luggage.
It takes more time, but it,s worth it in the long run. Good Luck, Al

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Danny Naccarato · Post by **Danny Naccarato** » 22 Aug 2002 12:18 pm

Had no problem. Had my picks, bar, volume pedal in carry-on. Return trip they asked to look as they didn't know the "round piece of metal". I said nothing on any of the legs, and there were no problems. I thought it was odd that they didn't even question or look for the pedal, as it's got a few wires and stuff they would never figure out on a screen. Figures.

Same with my 9mm recently. I had to check that as well as "declare" it, but the agents didn't even want to look at it, although they are supposed to be sure it's unloaded. Never checked the ammo either as it's supposed to be in it's "original container".

I did ask about wire cutters on a recent flight as I thought I might be carrying on my pac-seat and was told it would need to be checked.
[This message was edited by Danny Naccarato on 22 August 2002 at 01:24 PM.]

Edgar Pro Case · Post by **Edgar Pro Case** » 22 Aug 2002 12:31 pm

I flew from KC to LaGuardia in Feb to do a session in Brooklyn and they would not let me take the side cutters I had in my 3 space carry on rack with extra strings and stuff. So I hopped the shuttle back to the parking and left them in the truck. Same with nail clippers, I remember the last time I actually killed a guy with my clippers it must have taken him three days to die. What a bunch of crap. Fingernail clippers as a weapon. WC

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 22 Aug 2002 1:43 pm

Not entirerly on this subject, but I recently flew to Las Vegas to meet up with my family (wife and daughter drove down a couple of days earlier) on vacation. Having gone through a search previously, I decided I would wear shorts (no belt), sandals (no shoe bomb), take no car keys or change in my pockets, no watch, no jacket etc. Well, the bastards pulled me aside anyway for a search. Wife says it's probably because I was only traveling one way. After having to remove my sandals and socks (watch out for those sock bombs) and a patdown (embarassing), the piece of sh!t searching me used his metal detecting rod to search for metal. the only time it went off was when he passed by the metal button/zipper on my shorts. He then prceeded to tell me he had to search down the front of my pants, which he did.

I am all for increased security, but they are going way too far.

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Greg Simmons · Post by **Greg Simmons** » 22 Aug 2002 4:46 pm

I know for sure when we fly down from Canada we're gonna have bars, picks etc. in checked baggage - don't need that stuff confiscated, or worse yet, get asked to turn it on

On a similar note; on the way home from the Dallas show this past March, at DFW I went through "Door #1" and did not trigger any metal detection at all, but the security dude then informed me I had been selected for a "supplemental" security inspection or whatever...that involved him asking me to lift my shirt and undo my belt but it never went any further than that - i.e. "NO that ISN'T a 1" BJS Bar in my pocket and I am NOT glad to see you"

Guess I didn't shave that morning and therefore he must've figured I was one of those hippies Earnest Bovine warned us about that show up on the Opry every so often and wanted to teach me a lesson...

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Steve Feldman · Post by **Steve Feldman** » 22 Aug 2002 5:28 pm

I fly dozens of times each month for work and I've gotten through with picks and bar as carry-on items. To be sure, however, just pack them in your bag and check it. I fly with my pocket knife checked everywhere I go. No problemo.

Danny Naccarato · Post by **Danny Naccarato** » 23 Aug 2002 4:58 am

Nail clippers are no problem as long as they don't contain the nail file (it's been revised). What a bunch of BS.[This message was edited by Danny Naccarato on 23 August 2002 at 05:59 AM.]

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 23 Aug 2002 3:05 pm

I've been stopped a few times with my bar and picks - the item that alarmed them most seemed to be the Allen wrenches....

I managed to talk my way through, though.

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 23 Aug 2002 5:06 pm

A pilot told me he's not allowed to have a nail file, but has free access to a fire axe when he's in the cockpit.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 23 Aug 2002 5:21 pm

A nail file ? But he has a fire axe? Won't that hurt his fingers? I'd be scared I'd cut a finger off, naw, I'd rather use a file to trim MY fingers nails.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 23 Aug 2002 5:26 pm

I hate being seen off stage with my picks, I was mistaken for a banjo player once and had to serve 10 days and go to "banjo rehab" for three months, all a mistake! Steel players, KEEP THOSE PICKS HIDDEN!

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 24 Aug 2002 10:22 am

On a similar note, I'll be taking my Stereo Steel preamp/amp, by itself with no case, to St. Louis for GD Walker to do some tweaks. I really don't want to check it, will I have any problems with it in my carry on bag?

Greg Simmons · Post by **Greg Simmons** » 24 Aug 2002 10:36 am

Jim, they might ask you to "turn it on", so guess you'll have to bring along a steel and a couple cabinets to show them that it works...

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Greg Simmons
Custodian of the Official Sho~Bud Pedal Steel Guitar Website
shobud.cjb.net

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 24 Aug 2002 10:38 am

Jim,
I'm bringing my S.S. unit to St.Louis also.
I'm thinking of checking it, wrapped inside a bunch of clothing + padding if needed.
I'm was also concidering taking it in a small backpack as carry on.
I notice with Computers and Video Cameras they just have you turn it on to show it is functioning.
But I know when the Stereo Steel goes through the X-ray machine they're not gonna over look all that circuitry. And demonstrating that it does something besides the power light coming on might be more hassle than it's worth.
I'll probably check it. They're pretty sturdy units.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 24 Aug 2002 11:10 am

Geez, you'd think that if they're that worried about things with circuits as possible bombs, they'd be even more concerned about the ones checked as baggage.

"If" I was going to blow up a plane, which I'm definitely not, that's how I'd do it.

Maybe I'll just send it along with a friend who's driving to St. Louis.