Anyone using 2 amps?

Damien Odell · Post by **Damien Odell** » 12 May 2006 1:32 am

I have been playing through a fender 112 valve amp. I use it for steel and 6 string at gigs. Sometimes I find when I really step on the volume for a solo the amp starts to break up and sound a little messy. I had been thinking that the only way to solve this was to go back to a fender twin or something (i sold my old one cause of te weight).
Tonight at home I tried running a lead out of the pre amp on the fender and into a roland cube 60 that I have and it seems to sound great - lots of power and a clear sound with the steel.
Does anyone else do a similar thing? I have a gig on sunday and I think I will try this rig there. I will still mic the fender.
I'm interested what other players do,

Damien

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 12 May 2006 9:24 am

Damien,
Back in the '70's,I used 2 Ampeg VT-22 amps,seperating them w/ an Ibanez CS9 stereo chorus. Today,I use a PV DPC-1000 stereo amp,w/ a ProFex II & 2 12" BW spkrs.

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 12 May 2006 10:18 am

For many years my main stage rig was a Mesa/Boogie stacked on a Webb. It's a very rich, dimensional sound. I'm too lazy to carry two amps nowadays, though.

Ron Elliott · Post by **Ron Elliott** » 12 May 2006 10:43 am

Damien, I use 2 Nashville 112's for steel coming out left & right from the PODxt in stereo....."Yummmy" !!! Thanks, Ron

David Wren · Post by **David Wren** » 12 May 2006 10:52 am

Just ordered a PV Nashville 112, to use in stereo with my Fender "Dyna Touch", 90 watt 1-12" amp... coming form a lexicon MPX 110... I have used my two Session 500s like this... but man that's a real workout setting up

Love the stereo sound of a steel.

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Larry Strawn · Post by **Larry Strawn** » 12 May 2006 12:18 pm

Damien,,
I used to use a Sessions 400, and a Renown 400, tied together at my volume pedal. Great sound!!

But a bad back, bad knees, and laziness has cought up to me!! One amp to carry is enough! lol..

Larry

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John De Maille · Post by **John De Maille** » 12 May 2006 12:29 pm

I've been using a N-1000 and a N-400, with my ProFex 11, and the sound is very full and clear with plenty of volume. It's way too much of a rig for a small venue with no room on stage, but, for larger rooms or outdoor gigs, the performance is terrific. I do have to use a handtruck, but, that's not too much of a problem.

Jerry Knapper · Post by **Jerry Knapper** » 17 May 2006 5:38 pm

I have often used a crate GFX1000 processor and gone out of the left side to a KK Sho~Bud amp and the right side to a Dalton Steel amp. The Amps normally sound great alone, but with the ping pong digital delay it created an awesome sound. Like the other, it just is a lot to carry.

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Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 17 May 2006 7:40 pm

I use two Nashville 400's. I play through one and the other is used to hold the door open on my basement studio.

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Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 17 May 2006 10:52 pm

A BF Vibroverb and a Holland Little Jimi. Gives me about 80 watts of tube power with 1x15 and 2x10's - more than enough power and headroom for most circumstances.

Roger Francis · Post by **Roger Francis** » 18 May 2006 5:59 am

2 nashville 112s, both reverbed, 1 with delay.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 18 May 2006 2:27 pm

yes, a combo of either the Session 400/ Nashville 400..or one of them with a Fender Hot Rod Deville.

Depending on how much Guitar I may play I set them up a bit differently..

Sometimes both Instruments thru both amps..
Sometimes the Steel thru both and the Tele thru only the Deville...

Two amps is a fine setup..very clean, VERY punchy...generally one is used for unobstructed stage presence and the other more of an on stage monitor kinda aimed across the stage...

I use a Morley AB floor pedal to route my wires for either setup.

t[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 19 May 2006 at 03:52 AM.]

Bruce Etter · Post by **Bruce Etter** » 18 May 2006 2:28 pm

Nashville 1000, PX-300, Profex II

Works for me!!

Rick Alexander · Post by **Rick Alexander** » 20 May 2006 1:23 pm

Using 2 amps is the way to go - whether it's 2 matching amps for beautiful balanced stereo, or 2 different amps (like a Music Man HD 130 and a Peavey Session 500) for a fat full sound.

I usually run a stereo reverb such as the Boss RV5 into the 2 amps.

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 20 May 2006 3:51 pm

Hey guys. while on the subject of playin through 2 steels, I've just started playin through 2 Nashville 112's. Do you want the volumes, pre gain, and master gain exactly the same on both amps? And do you want the EQ set exactly the same on both amps?

Terry

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Billy Webb · Post by **Billy Webb** » 26 May 2006 7:32 pm

I use two webb amps for steel, with a profex11, and a 56 fender bandmaster, and a 60 fender pro amp, with a profex11 for guitar. somtime i just put both webbs on channel #1, unplug the cord from the v peddle, plug it into my guitar and im good to go, heck of a sound. I run my steel on channel #3

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Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 26 May 2006 7:51 pm

I used to run my Emmons push/pull through an old Fender Vibrosonic and a Nashville 400. I used some delay in the Fender. I wasn't looking for a stereo sound. The blend of the Fender and the Peavey was wonderful.

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Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 26 May 2006 8:20 pm

Terry - playing through two identical amps with identical setups seems kind of odd to me. I'm looking for variations in tone that widen the harmonic content - not just more volume. Two amps set identically could have a chance of creating phase problems, with weird oscillations and volume dropouts as well.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 27 May 2006 5:46 am

Jim is correct. When I was playing through the Fender/Peavey combination, I would angle the two amps away from each other, just a tad. It seemed to help with the blend and probably prevented a lot of the phase problems that could occur.

Lee

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 27 May 2006 6:00 am

Jim, that's what I needed to know. How would you set two identical amps as far as the volumm
and the lows verses highs etc?

Terry

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Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 28 May 2006 3:25 pm

Damien, while 2 amps is great, I have found over the years that a rack rig is much more user friendly...I have everything sitting on the floor next to me - power amp, preamp, efx and tuner - all at hands reach, with 2 Peavey Nashville 115E cabinets behind me (BW1501-4's).
The sound is awesome and the weight is down a bit on 2 amps......although 2 amps will sound great you still have to get up to adjust anything !! and then you still need a tuner and your effects requirements etc etc ...it's much easier when it's all self contained in one box !

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 28 May 2006 3:43 pm

When I was using the two amps, I had a 3-space rack that contained two f/x units, one for delays and one for reverbs and/or chorus. I also had a stereo graphic e/q in the rack. I could easily reach down and tweak the tone of either amp with the e/q and each side of the e/q had a volume control, so I could turn up or down each amp as needed. It worked really well.

Lee

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 28 May 2006 5:51 pm

Tery - First you need to make sure the speakers are in phase. ven the same make/model may not be, or could be wired backwards. Briefly touch a 9V battery to the speaker terminals, and make sure the polarity is noted, i.e. which way makes the speaker cone move out. Once those are wired correctly to avoid phase cancellation, you can play with the settings.

No drastic differences, just tweaked to the treble side on one and the bass on the other. And use of a stereo delay or chorus (yeah, I know a lot of people don't like chorus - but with two amps it's a different story) can move the output around and make for a "wall of sound".

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 29 May 2006 7:48 am

Jim, I set all my equipment up at our church, I'll try different settings on each amp. Thanks

Terry

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Mark Fasbender · Post by **Mark Fasbender** » 29 May 2006 10:56 pm

Terry........ Sometimes using effects on only one of the amps can be more effective and dramatic. Try it out.

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