Grail

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 22 Sep 2005 2:58 pm

Bob and I seem to travel the same paths WAY too often (grin).

I started in 1963 in Surf Music, and am a reverb freak. I've tried almost everything you can think of.

IMO the Holy Grail is the best reverb unit ever. I prefer it to the outboard spring unit (it's quieter) and tonewise it's identical. Other than amps with built-in reverb, it's the way to go. One of my setups is a Fender 400->fuzz->Holy Grail->Maestro Phase Shifter->Replex delay->SWR Baby Blue bass amp. Tone for days...

Ooops - this was supposed to be part of the reverb thread. Short circuit between seat and keyboard...

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Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 22 Sep 2005 5:30 pm

Got one.

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 27 Sep 2005 1:49 pm

Jim,

I also found out about the Holy Grail. Play one now thru a Peavey Vegas 400. Just awesome.

Never cared much for Peavey's reverb, even when I bought the amp - figured I could just drop in a Fender [Twin] reverb pan, but that was never to be [incompatible].

The Grail is simple. One master presence control, and 3 reverb settings. I've gone thru the gamut of "boxes' and effects, and have pretty much decided I like the sound of the steel as it is, with a touch of reverb, of course.

And you just can't beat the price. I think I bought it for around $78.

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 27 Sep 2005 4:29 pm

Hey Jim, are you just using the SWR head as a power amp with the Fender400 as the preamp? Are you playing steel through this rig, or some other guitar? I'd thought about plugging the steel into my SWR SM-400 head just to try out the tube preamp sound.

-MG

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 27 Sep 2005 8:24 pm

How do people feel about reverb versus delay for pedal steel? I haven't tried delay much, but some people seem to use it in place of or along with reverb.

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 27 Sep 2005 9:06 pm

Two questions, two answers...reverse order:

I use both reverb and delay. They are significantly different effects.

As far as the SWR's, one is a Baby Blue with 2 - 8" and one 5" drivers...runs about 160 watts. Plug steel or guitar into it and it's a great sound.

My other is an older PWB-200, one of Steve Rabe's first amps. It's a 200W head, and I run it into a 2x12 cabinet loaded with Celestion bass/keyboard speakers. Great bass sound with a PBass and works really well as a steel amp! That one is not as good for regular guitar for some reason - probably the speakers.

Alan Kirk · Post by **Alan Kirk** » 28 Sep 2005 12:39 pm

What about the Holier Grail and the Holiest Grail? Anyone have any experience with these?

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Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 28 Sep 2005 1:45 pm

Alan,
I was wondering the same thing.
Erv

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 29 Sep 2005 1:28 am

Well, how about the Holy S*&^ Grail. This unit is definitely more country.

Alan Kirk · Post by **Alan Kirk** » 30 Sep 2005 12:18 pm

Went down to the local music store to try out the Holier Grail. It was DOA. Doesn't say much for EH's quality control.

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