Blue Marvel / Scorpion difference

Kevin Ruddell · Post by **Kevin Ruddell** » 1 May 2005 3:20 am

I ordered a Blue Marvel speaker for an extension cabinet for my Peavey Classic 30 and was wondering what the difference ( other than price ) is between those and the Scorpion and Black Widow speakers that Peavey makes ? Thanks in advance for any info.

Tom Gorr · Post by **Tom Gorr** » 1 May 2005 10:44 am

I'd like to know too !

jim milewski · Post by **jim milewski** » 1 May 2005 12:53 pm

the scorpian has a fine screen for the dust cover which in my estimation means it won't push air like an aluminum or paper cover, which would change it tone wise to other speakers, wonder why they did that?

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 2 May 2005 7:21 am

There are quite few differences between the Peavey Blue Marvel and the Peavey Scorpion speakers. The first big difference is the the Scorpion Series features out replacable basket technology.............the Blue Marvel is a speaker that we have made to our specifications for certain amplifier/instrument applications.

The Scorpion Series can handle 200 watts and the various Blue Marvel speakers are spec'd out to handle the power for the application that they are used for.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Tom Gorr · Post by **Tom Gorr** » 2 May 2005 9:30 am

Mike - What applications does the Blue Marvel excel in ?

I personally think the Scorp's are the best speaker around for electric guitar. A 1x12 Scorpion with a MB Formula preamp and Peavey 50/50 power amp is the sweetest clean sound EVER !! It'll make you weep.

Tom Gorr · Post by **Tom Gorr** » 7 May 2005 7:39 pm

Does anyone know how a Telecaster sounds through a Blue Marvel ? Compared to Scorpion ?

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 8 May 2005 1:59 am

Tim, you have to take in consideration what the speaker was designed for and it's frequency range.

A speaker designed for a Lead Guitar amp is much different than one designed for a Steel Guitar amp. Same way with the speaker (amp) enclosure - the enclosures would be designed for different frequency responses.

You would have to have one particular model of a speaker to make a valid comparison.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 9 May 2005 8:46 am

What Jack said. Also, the replaceable basket feature is a marketing/selling tool.

Terje Larson · Post by **Terje Larson** » 10 May 2005 10:55 am

Posted by Jack Stoner:
"A speaker designed for a Lead Guitar amp is much different than one designed for a Steel Guitar amp."

What would be the main difference? I'm wondering since I'm interested in this topic as I'm playing slide on an elelctric balalajka, having the same range as a violin, and I wonder if there is anything out there that will work better with my playing style which is more and more going in the direction of trying to emulate the sound of a steel guitar pedal steel.

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 10 May 2005 12:18 pm

Mike Brown has addressed this several times, and better than I can.

But, the "voicing" or response of speakers will vary depending on the application it's designed for. At one time there wasn't any differentiation and we had "guitar" speakers.

For example the Peavey Black Widow 1501 speaker is a paper cone and with a very wide frequency response. It was developed for Pedal Steel Guitar and it's frequency range. Before the 1501, Peavey used Bass speakers for Pedal Steel (e.g. the Black Widow 1502). According to Mike, the "Blue Marvel" speaker used in the Nashville 112 is a custom model speaker, not a standard "guitar amp" speaker.

Another example is the 15" Eminence "Delta Lite" speaker that Evans has used in their Steel Guitar Amps. Eminence lists this model speaker as a Bass speaker.

The Nashville 400 "Pedal Steel Guitar Amplifier" is popular with fiddle players.

However, if you are trying to emulate a steel with some other instrument I don't think the speaker will help you.

Terje Larson · Post by **Terje Larson** » 10 May 2005 8:17 pm

Originally posted by Jack Stoner:
"However, if you are trying to emulate a steel with some other instrument I don't think the speaker will help you."

You're probably right, it'll be the least of my problems. Just wondering though what the difference might be.

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