Question For Lexicon Users

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 21 Sep 2003 1:17 pm

I use an older MPX 100, but this would apply to any of the Lex models.

There are so many reverbs to choose from - Hall, Chamber, Plate, Room, etc. Which do you normally use on the bandstand?

I've never been able to find an acceptable Reverb/Delay combination. I prefer to use just one repeat, and when I use that combination on the MPX 100, the only reverb that is available is pretty weak. I finally added a cheap ($100) digital delay unit made by Phonic to my rack and set it to the desired delay. Now the Lex is for reverb only.

By the way, if you want to add just a touch of chorus to the reverb, on the Lex try the Reverb/Flange combination. The chorusing effect can be made very, very subtle.

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Lee, from South Texas
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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 21 Sep 2003 1:39 pm

I'm mostly using Delay-Reverb combinations. I mess with the controls in a quiet room until I get the settings I want, and then assign them to the User patches. When performing, I only use the User patches, none of the presets.

Every six months or so, I sit down with it and develop another User patch or two, or tweak the ones I got. The lack of a display makes it hard to know what you're working on, though.

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Jim Ives · Post by **Jim Ives** » 1 Oct 2003 10:43 am

I just use a Boss RV3. That gives me all one could reasonably need.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 1 Oct 2003 12:26 pm

I use a MPX 200 but not for the reverb. I have a Tube Works reverb unit that is hard to beat. However, I use the Lexicon for a touch of compression, delay and chorus. To top it all off, I even kick in a H & K Rotosphere once in a while for added effects.
Erv

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 22 Mar 2004 3:21 pm

I thought I would bump this back to the top again. Which do you prefer? Hall, Chamber, Plate, Room?

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Lee, from South Texas
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Jeff Agnew · Post by **Jeff Agnew** » 23 Mar 2004 5:47 am

It depends on your environment and the type of sound you prefer. Another factor is whether your amp is miked and, if so, whether the sound man adds reverb to the general mix.

Plate reverb is cleaner and, I feel, projects better in a noisy stage or room because it doesn't seek to mimic the early reflections found in the other reverb models. It may sound too sterile to you on stage but remember what you hear is not what the audience hears.

A hall or room setting, or even a spring emulation if you have it, will sound much livelier to you on stage. If I'm playing in a dry room I prefer one of these models. But if you're in a large hall or noisy room, don't forget to factor in the natural reverb.

The higher end models from Lexicon and other vendors give you extensive control over each reverb model. Changing the balance of early reflections, pre-delay, or EQ can drastically alter the model. You can tweak these settings so much there is significant overlap between the hall/plate/room sounds.

Glenn Suchan · Post by **Glenn Suchan** » 24 Mar 2004 9:37 am

I currently run straight from the guitar to my Evans SE200 and only use the onboard reverb in slight moderation. However, my rack unit (which I have used to go direct to a house PA, etc.) has an Evans ESPA preamp with an MPX 100. On that, I use the "Hall" reverb and tap the delay for about a third of a second. I blend that combination fairly dry in the output signal. It fattens the sound without too much sonic "clutter".

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 24 Mar 2004 3:27 pm

I like the plate reverb sound best.

Mark Kelchen · Post by **Mark Kelchen** » 3 Apr 2004 7:11 am

Lee, what setting are you using for reverb on your Lex? I had similar issues with the MPX 100. In the dual mode reverb/delay, the reverb appears a little weak and there are multiple descending delays. After contacting Lexicon, I learned you cannot adjust the amount of delays in the dual mode, consiquently I haven't found a happy medium. For now, I plan on using the LEX for either reverb or delay in the single program area and will try an Alesis Microverb III for the other, hoping to find a good balance. Good luck.

03 Zum 8&6, 76 Session 400, Lexicon MPX-100, Alesis Microverb III, Furman PQ-3[This message was edited by Mark Kelchen on 03 April 2004 at 07:13 AM.]

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 3 Apr 2004 1:46 pm

Mark - I've been using the different variations of HALL reverbs on the bandstand. On a few songs I use a combination of reverb and flange, with the flange effect turned way back. I like the subtle use of flange more than chorus, on some of the slow songs. As I mentioned at the top, I use a separate unit for delay only, usually in the 200 to 300 ms range, depending on the room.

Here is nice e-mail I recently received. I haven't had a chance to try this yet, but I thought I would share it with the Forum members:

After an exhaustive effort I think I've found the perfect sound from it.
I've played in rehearsal and on stage and it's perfect, I think.

Note: I'll use a clock hand setting for the position of the dials
(eg. 1:30 - where the hour hand would be on a clock)

Set your dials exactly like this and try it:

Use: Delay/Echo - Variation 15

Input: 2:30
Mix: 9:45
Output: 10:30
Effects Level: 10:00
Adjust: This is the only dial you need to move when playing:
Set it at 1:30 for med/faster songs
Set it at 2:15- 2:30 for slow songs - like Look at Us
NOTE: IMPORTANT: Also set your amp reverb to 2 1/2 and leave it there.

I'm using a Peavey Session 400 LTD.

I'm very happy with these settings now after many hours of frustration.
All I do is change the "Adjust" setting slightly, as above, per style of
song.

Hope they work for you.

Sincerely,
Ron Beingessner

My rack is packed away in the closet right now and I haven't had a chance to try these settings. Thanks for sharing this with me, Ron.

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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande

Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 3 Apr 2004 6:50 pm

..Lee, for playing live, I've been using plate reverb, variation 7..."tap" delay to taste, usually about 1/2 second, I guess...

...I play through a Fender Vibrasonic with the amp reverb set at 2 1/2...

..I'm very happy with this combination...for overdrive, I keep the settings the same and use a Full-Tone stomp-box, which I keep within reach and operate by hand..[This message was edited by Pat Burns on 03 April 2004 at 06:52 PM.]

Gerald Menke · Post by **Gerald Menke** » 13 Apr 2004 5:56 am

Hello Lee,

I use a MPX 550 in both of my racks, and tend to use three different patches, a "small church", "large church" and another one that is a mix of reverb and panning delays, I think it's called "X-field Large". If these patches don't correspond to anything on your unit, I apologize, I was intrigued by your post as I am a regular Lexicon user as well.

I tend to use a mix of about 20-25 percent, any more than that and I feel like I am playing the reverb instead of the steel, know what I mean?