do more winds on Pick up add bass or treble

Jeff Hogsten · Post by **Jeff Hogsten** » 7 Apr 2004 5:51 pm

I was just reading a post bY Randy Beavers that said more windings add bass then I read one by Brad Sarno that says they add treble. What gives, can someone please explain this

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rpetersen · Post by **rpetersen** » 7 Apr 2004 5:56 pm

That's right!!

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Kevin Mincke · Post by **Kevin Mincke** » 7 Apr 2004 6:02 pm

Yep......shonuff

Jeff Hogsten · Post by **Jeff Hogsten** » 8 Apr 2004 5:16 pm

I just edited my post the second one should have said more treble sorry

Gerald Menke · Post by **Gerald Menke** » 9 Apr 2004 6:42 am

I have never heard of a higher number of windings adding treble. Four critical pickup characteristics:

Magnet strength
Number of turns (amount of wire around the bobbin)
Arrangement of components
The gauge of the wire used in the winding

In my experience higher output pickups (in general) have been beefier sounding in the mids and lows, but not as bright.

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Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 9 Apr 2004 8:41 am

Jeff, I'm not sure where I was quoted as saying that, but generally I'd say that more windings darkens the tone; has less highs and more mid and bass. Thicker sounding.

Less windings, more treble and sparkle and thinner sound.

Brad Sarno

Jeff Hogsten · Post by **Jeff Hogsten** » 9 Apr 2004 10:53 am

Brad I may have misunderstood what you were saying I would have to go back and find the post, it was with a post Randy Beavers made Im not sure if it was in the same one and doesnt matter. Thanks for clearifing that, it helped a lot, Im getting ready to order a new single coil pickup and was just wonder what to get thanks a lot everyone on is really nice and willing to give advice and I appreciate it very much

Jeff

Paul Osbty · Post by **Paul Osbty** » 10 Apr 2004 12:10 pm

High frequencies only need "smaller" antennaes, less mass (shorter wavelength).

Low frequencies need "larger" antennaes, more mass (longer wavelengths).

So, more windings (more mass) allow more of the lower frequencies to develop a voltage, thus current, thus more lower frequencies in the tone.

William Peters · Post by **William Peters** » 11 Apr 2004 6:01 pm

Actually, a magnetic guitar pickup is an inductor. All other variables being constant, more turns means more inductance. Inductors exhibit higher impedance to high frequencies and lower impedance to low frequencies according to the rule Z = 2 * pi * frequency * inductance.

Therefore, more turns equals more impedance to high frequencies, therefore less treble in the output.

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