Nashville 1000 hiss problem

Uwe Haegg · Post by **Uwe Haegg** » 3 Dec 2003 3:39 am

I`m having a hiss problem with my Nashville
1000 when using the line output on the rear.
When I plug directly into a mixer from the line out the hiss is very loud and irritating.
My settings are pretty close to what everybody else is using for steel.
Has anybody else experienced this?
One way to get around it could be to put a mic in front instead of using the line out.
Any recommendations as to which mic to use in order to get the full range of the steel?

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 3 Dec 2003 5:01 am

Uwe,put a mic on it...a Shure SM57...

Gordon Titcomb · Post by **Gordon Titcomb** » 3 Dec 2003 6:02 am

I agree with Steve 100%
I always insist on a SM57, and in fact prefer it over Neumanns,and all of the other high end mics for use on my Nashville 1000.
One other thing to consider is this:
The sound/tone combination that you are dialing into your amp is produced by the combined factors of your guitar,EQ settings AND the sound shaping that is produced by the speaker/cabinet design of your amp.
A direct signal that is sent to , say, an enclosed wedge is goint to have a different tonal quality than the sound of your open back Nashville 1000.
IMHO, unless there are"bleeding" or"leakage" problems from other instruments, (the live recording of a show would be a situation where you would most likely be concerned with this), miking an amp is ALWAY the way to go for live playing.
One last thing to consider is" Are you using any stomp boxes etc. in the signal chain?
Many of these devices introduce noise of one sort or another.

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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 3 Dec 2003 6:34 am

I have never seen the subject amp. So I know nothing about it. But it seems to me that if one hears anything in the line out of an amp, it should certainly be heard in the speaker, UNLESS there is either a defect or poor design. Conversely, if you do not hear a hiss in the speaker, you should NOT hear it in the "line out" jack.

I would call Mike Brown about this in a heartbeat, if I had experienced this problem.

carl

Ken Fox · Post by **Ken Fox** » 3 Dec 2003 7:21 am

Is the line out a balanced signal? If not, you may be getting ground loop problems as well. If the mixer has a tip-ring-sleeve input, then a cable can be made that would go from unbalanced to balanced, eliminating any ground loop. I am not familiar with the line output of the amp, but on most amps it is an unbalanced (signal carried on the shield and one conductor). There are "hum eliminators" on the market to help with this type problem. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Ken Fox on 03 December 2003 at 07:23 AM.]</p></FONT>

Uwe Haegg · Post by **Uwe Haegg** » 3 Dec 2003 8:24 am

Thanks for your advice.
I think I will go with the mic solution.
I don`t think there is anything wrong with the amp.
My theory is that the hiss simply is not transferred by the 15" speaker due to
it`s high frequency nature.
The line out on the Nashville 1000 is to my knowledge balanced as it is done with a XLR connector. I`m positive that it is not a ground loop problem.
Thanks again.

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 3 Dec 2003 8:38 am

Just a thought: How high is your treble setting on the amp? Try backing it off a couple of notches and see if the hiss goes away.

Drew

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Uwe Haegg · Post by **Uwe Haegg** » 4 Dec 2003 1:51 am

Drew,
I set about 4 or 5. The hiss is only a problem when using the line out.
During "normal" playing, using the amp as back gear only, I have no hiss problem.

I really love the sound of the Nashville 1000
and I first noticed the hiss when my band decided to use a mixer and headphones instead of using a PA-system when practising.

I guess I`ll have to get me a Shure SM57.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 4 Dec 2003 6:35 am

This symptom is not normal and the problem could most likely be found on the control board.

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 4 Dec 2003 6:52 am

Maybe the hiss will go away if you use a different input on the mixer. The signal from the Line Out of the Peavey amp is at Line Level, Lo-Z.
If you use a mixer input that is designed for Mic level (or instrument level) and Hi-Z, that could cause hiss.

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 4 Dec 2003 8:51 am

Thank you Mike.

carl

Uwe Haegg · Post by **Uwe Haegg** » 5 Dec 2003 1:42 am

Mike,
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I`ll have the local Peavey repair shop look at it.
Thank you all for taking time to help me out.