SE-70 or VF-1

Kevin Mincke · Post by **Kevin Mincke** » 20 Aug 2003 10:59 am

Has anyone A/B'd these two units likes dislikes etc. Do they both have the capability of a footswitch such as the FC-50. I'm guessing the VF-1 is digital vs.the older SE-70 counterpart analog. How are the preset effects and is it easy to move through the menu?

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 20 Aug 2003 11:08 am

I still use an old SE-50 with my practice rig and love it. I tried an SE-70 but it seemed harder to program and it didn't sound any better to me, so I sold it. I haven't tried the VF-1.

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Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording

Leon Roberts · Post by **Leon Roberts** » 20 Aug 2003 7:16 pm

The VF-1 is an awesome unit but I found it had to many bells and whistles for my taste. A younger guy might love the VF-1 but I'm more comfortable with the SE-50. I guess its true that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Leon

Larry Behm · Post by **Larry Behm** » 21 Aug 2003 3:45 am

The SE70 is digital; they can be had on Ebay for $100-$125 on a good day; you must create your own programs as the factory presets are for guitar, but this is not a problem.

I would not think of taking it out of my system, it is very versitile as I am sure the VF1 would also be.

Larry Behm

Dan Dowd · Post by **Dan Dowd** » 21 Aug 2003 4:01 am

I have had the VF-1 for a couple of years. The fact that it ia a 1/2 rack unit lets me attach it to my steel using a couple of George L's leg clamps. I run it thru my Nashville 400 using the Power Amp in on the back. I have tweaked the EQ section to give me the tone I like and have several settings that I use regularly such as Chorus, Fuzz, Dobro and the normal Reverb and Delay settings. Using the Power Amp in allows me to put my amp far enough behind me without having to try to adjust the 400. You can adjust the EQ setting to you taste on the fly without saving them to the VF-1 to allow for room differences. There are more settings to tweak than a Profex has plus it has Amp simulators. I like it.

Michael Johnstone · Post by **Michael Johnstone** » 21 Aug 2003 10:22 am

I too have an SE-70 in my rack and find it very versatile. One thing I like is the fact that you can hook up a regular push button foot switch to it and assign it to control any parameter of a patch preset.For instance,I use it to control the speed of the Leslie simulater(a great sound BTW) and on another six effect preset,I use it to turn the delay on or off. The SE-70 can have up to 16 simultaneous effects in a preset and it has virtually any effect I've ever heard of.You can even hook up a mic to the second input,call up the vocoder patch and do the Pete Drake talk box gag. -MJ-

Larry Behm · Post by **Larry Behm** » 21 Aug 2003 4:12 pm

On the SE70 you can also create horn patches, you must play slow but they sound real. I too have a dobro patch, steel drum patch etc.

Larry Behm

Ralph Willsey · Post by **Ralph Willsey** » 21 Aug 2003 6:07 pm

I've been using the SE-70 into the power amp on the NV-400 for several years now, and more recently into a Classic 50 410 (and sometimes both for a kind of stereo). The EQ is much more powerful than what the amps give you, and I've been able to find quite a few different settings that all sound great to me. Of course it also has many effects that are unusable.

I looked into the VF-1 but more or less lost interest when I saw that it doesn't have a headphone jack, which is another thing I like about the SE-70. However I am still curious whether the 24-bit processing of the newer model would sound better. The VF-1 has an additional digital output, too, which I wondered about connecting to a home theatre surround sound system. I might get the newer one some day, but the SE-70 still has a lot of settings I've never tried.

If you get the VF-1, tell us all about it. I don't think new SE-70s are available any more.