Idea For Peavey

Timmy Witt · Post by **Timmy Witt** » 11 Sep 2002 5:57 pm

I don't know if any new effects modules are in the works for Peavey, but here is one I would like to see. A modeling effects unit similar to the Line 6 pod or the behringer v-amp only with all the classic sounds from peavey amps, especially all the classic steel amps, session, vegas, nashville, etc.
I know the profex has speaker sim in it, but it never had one for a black widow, and the ones it had just didn't never do me any good. Just an Idea

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 11 Sep 2002 8:02 pm

And while you're at it, model a Standel, a Sho-Bud christmas tree, a Webb, an Evans and of course a Fender Twin Reverb.

I saw a demo of a Line6 amp once. The guy was explaining how it could sound like a Marshall stack, a Mesa/Boogie, etc. I asked him, "Will it do a Peavey Session 400?"

He replied (and I'm not kidding), "We only modeled amps that people actually like". It got a good laugh, but I thought that was pretty rude. Later, I tried the amp. I couldn't find a tone in it that I liked.

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Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 12 Sep 2002 2:15 am

I rented a Johnson J-Station for a month to see if there were any sounds in that thing that would work for me in a home studio situation. I found one sound that I enjoyed, "black face." The rest made me barf.

Manufacturers seem to ignore the steel guitar world as much as synth designers ignore accordionists. Ask a keyboard technician "how many different accordions do you have in your samples" and I'll bet you get a similar answer.

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Johan Jansen · Post by **Johan Jansen** » 12 Sep 2002 4:31 am

Manufacturers seem to ignore the steel guitar world as much as synth designers ignore accordionists. Ask a keyboard technician "how many different accordions do you have in your samples" and I'll bet you get a similar answer.

same with B&n**

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 12 Sep 2002 6:29 am

Bob, I've heard that statement before and I don't quite understand why. I personally own a couple of Fender amps at this time(however, they are quite old) and have owned Marshalls. They are good sounding amps, however I feel that todays models are a bit overpriced for basically the same designs that were created years ago.

It sounds as if that Line 6 rep hasn't been keeping up with what we manufacture. He probably doesn't have a clue about steel guitars, would be my guess.

Our EVH 5150 series and Triple XXX series guitar amplifiers are highly regarded as some of the best sounding amplifiers on the market. That's why Eddie Van Halen approached our guitar engineers to manufacture his guitars as well.
Although an artist endorsement helps somewhat in an increase in sales of a product, I think that the public is smart enough to know when a product doesn't live up to what it is advertised to do.

I will pass your suggestion for a modeling steel amp along for consideration.

Johan Jansen · Post by **Johan Jansen** » 12 Sep 2002 9:26 am

Or maybe a modeling pickup. Like that Line-6 guitar has!!

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 12 Sep 2002 2:12 pm

Mike, I would be the first to buy one if Peavey came out with a modeler.

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chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 12 Sep 2002 4:35 pm

I want a talent simulator.

Doug Earnest · Post by **Doug Earnest** » 12 Sep 2002 9:03 pm

Chas Smith,
Yeah, I want one too! They would really have something then!
Mike Brown - you guys do a great job. I'd be happy if you could just make something that was like the Session 2000. Surely there is some other kind of memory card slot (wasn't that the problem?) that could be used. You really had a hell of an amp there and it had all of the "modeling" I would ever want, in the selectable preamp types. PLEASE !!!!! I'm sure there are problems or you would have already done it but seriously that type of amp was just great, in my opinion. Keep up the good work.

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Matt Steindl · Post by **Matt Steindl** » 13 Sep 2002 3:43 pm

"We only model amps that people actually like!"

Well.............. I gotta admit, that I had the same oppinion of Peavy products before I found this forum. I have yet to actually play through a Peavy amp w/ a PSG, but I trust what most of you guys say, so I often find myself defending Peavy in the presence of other snobby gear heads. You have to admit, that beyond the PSG world, they have a reputation of being at worst, student model amp builder and at best, a working class amp. W/ that said, I gotta tell ya, some of the best things in life started as "working class". The Beatles were originally a working class band and Miller Hi-life is considered a working class beer. Know what? Gimme the White album and a 6 pack of Hi-Life!!!!!!!!!!

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Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 14 Sep 2002 4:18 pm

What Chas said!!!!!!!

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Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 17 Sep 2002 5:42 am

I invite anyone who is rolling down Interstate 20 through Central Mississippi to stop by our Multimedia Center here at Peavey. If you have always thought that Peavey is a "little solid state" amp company, I think that what we have to show you will simply amaze you. Just to make you aware, we have a sister company called Architectural Acoustics that designs and manufactures permanent intallation products.
When you walk through the Disney parks, there is no way that you won't hear a Media Matrix system in use. The U.S. Senate chambers are equipped with a Peavey Media Matrix system. CNN and CSPAN are driven by the Peavey Media Matrix systems.

So, I hope that this gives you an idea of how Peavey has evolved since 1965. Although it started with amps like the small Studio Pro to the EVH 5150's, there is much more to Peavey than is seen by the public. But, we still support the steel guitar community!

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 17 Sep 2002 6:48 am

Hey, Mike; I didn't know that and I thought I read every Monitor there ever was including the one where we talked about a trememlo setting lots of years ago. All I can say is WOW!!

Regards, Paul

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 17 Sep 2002 9:12 am

I want a talent simulator.

chas, Doug
I had to chuckle. Chet Atkins referred to reverb as 'talent'.
e.g.,
"Could you put a little 'talent' on this guitar?"

Worked for him, I guess, but no matter how high I turn the 'talent' knob up, I still make too many mistakes.

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Colin Keyworth · Post by **Colin Keyworth** » 17 Sep 2002 10:20 am

I've got to say that i used to shy away from Peavey gear for many years after a bad experience a collegue had & unfortunately spent much wasted time searching for that certain sound & after buying a session 400 ltd the search is well & truly over.All i can say is judge things for yourself before you dismiss them, i'll definately buy Peavey again.

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Bob Simmons · Post by **Bob Simmons** » 26 Sep 2002 7:18 pm

I'd like to see a simple front panel,ie mid,etc, with a GOOD built in delay, modest price.
bob

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 30 Sep 2002 12:13 pm

I use a Delta Blues single 15" for steel. i actually bought it to be my baritone amp. It was kinda weak in the lower freq's so i put in a Hammond organ power Xformen and a Doc Z output tranny, an old Jensen 15, and upgraded the tubes. One day I plugged in my Kline and was amazed. Can't play it too loud, but with a mic on it, it sounds tremendous!

Bob Metzger · Post by **Bob Metzger** » 30 Sep 2002 1:32 pm

I have to say I'm quite pleased with my NV-400 for steel guitar but I dread having to play guitar thru that thing (on the same gig). So I carry two amps, if that's what it takes. I have the "Super Discombobulator mod" and a JBL 15" spkr in my NV-400.

I do wish Peavey would put in some research (probably too late a date for this, unfortunately - but here goes anyway) and make a mod update that would offer a truely great reverb sound that could be retrofitted to most popular units.

How many steel players use Peavey amps? (lots) And how many use some other device to provide reverb? (lots, again). That is the one thing Peavey could do to really help the steel player - get that reverb sound (out of the early 80's) into the 21st century. I know it's possible because I've been tinkering with the drive and recovery stages of mine for a year or so and I'm alot closer. Think of all those extra bucks floating into Meridian for "Reverb Enhancement Kits".

Bob M.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 10 Oct 2002 5:41 am

Bob, almost anything in the electronic field is possible these days and a "modeling" reverb unit is not out of reach. There is probably one on the market now! With a "specialty" product like a modeling reverb unit, a manufacturer wants to ensure that the product can perform and provide the reverb "voicings" that players actually want and will use. Every steel guitarist that I have heard using an external digital reverb, uses a different processor. I guess that they most common is the Boss DDL-3. I would like input from Forumites on this. Please send me an e-mail with your suggestions for various reverb types that you use in your performances.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

David Weaver · Post by **David Weaver** » 10 Oct 2002 6:22 am

I invite anyone who is rolling down Interstate 20 through Central Mississippi to stop by our Multimedia Center here at Peavey. If you have always thought that Peavey is a "little solid state" amp company, I think that what we have to show you will simply amaze you.

I know that a local Peavey rep did just what Mike suggested above and he couldn't say enough about what he saw on his visit. He just kept saying that "Those guys are brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!" He was very very impressed with the level of technology that he saw.

Gil Berry · Post by **Gil Berry** » 21 Oct 2002 10:43 pm

Don't know why Peavey has a bad rep. I've owned several amps over the past forty years - everything from old Silvertones, Gibsons, Sho-buds, Fenders (with and without JBL's) and a few Peaveys. The only amp I ever DIDN'T like was a solid-state Standell. (It was too harsh for me - but would have been a great rock amp). The only thing I don't like about my twin Session 500's is that I have to lease a truck (and get help) to do a gig!

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 22 Oct 2002 8:23 am

"Modeling" in an amp (when used for "clean" sounds) is nothing but changing the tone! The neat overdrive, distortion, and crunch sounds that modeling can give a straight guitar player are virtually useless on pedal steel.

Does anyone here believe they can get a "closed cabinet" sound from an open cabinet...or vice-versa? Do you think anything Line-6 makes really sounds like a Dual Showman? Or a Twin Reverb? IMHO, what we really need is an amp with a 7-10 band graphic equalizer so we can contour the sound as we like it, and a good sounding reverb. That's all.