Peavey Nashville 1000 Line Out... YEEHA!!!

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 27 Jul 2002 5:52 am

Well, here I go again with the thanks, but to me I feel it's just as important to post when I discover something not only happens to work but work WELL.
With steel, I like to keep it old school, meaning mic the amp, although I am familiar with & have 2 other modeling amps. This weekend, I'm on a gig with a big sound co. I'm not familiar with, came time for my 1000, I said I prefer to mic it, someone noticed the line out. Admitted I hadn't tried it & didn't want to as historically FOR ME line outs on normally aspired amps (lack of better description) just never worked. So the sound man said let's give it a shot & we'll mic if it's not happening.
It happened. It sounds GREAT!!! Couldn't believe it. All highs, mids, lows were present & accounted for sir, & the speaker ambience-richness, whatever was THERE. I really don't need an explanation as to why, if it works since I wouldn't bother with it in the past. But it works & it works GREAT!!!
Way to go, Peavey! Way to go, Mike Brown! Me happy.

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John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 27 Jul 2002 4:49 pm

Rex; You can also run your output wire that goes to your speaker to an EDI (Equalized-Direct-Interface) Suppied through PEAVEY,and then out of it to your speaker. That way, it has a three prong (equalized, balanced output) to go directly to a board, however; the sound comes from your speaker rather than your pre-amp. which will give you a true sound similar to a mic. but without the external noise that can be picked up when using a mic. The P.A. will reproduce your speaker sound. I have two Nashville 1000s. I used to use the EDIs with other PEAVEY amps. that worked fine, however I haven't gotten around to hooking them to my 1000s yet. Probably because I don't have enough oppertunity to play out as I would welcome! It's well worth the effort to try the EDI especially if you like to mic!

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 29 Jul 2002 4:55 am

We're happy too! Thanks for using our products!

Randy Pettit · Post by **Randy Pettit** » 29 Jul 2002 5:57 am

We mic all the amps so this isn't a big deal, but when I tried lining out of my 1000, it produced a terrible hiss. The only way to minimize it was to cut (I mean really cut) all the highs - treble and presence. I can even hear some of the hiss through the speaker. Am I doing something wrong or is the problem with the unit?

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 29 Jul 2002 7:02 am

I'm glad you posted, Randy. Because I'm at the house practicing more than out working with steel like I did years ago, it's warm & fuzzy here. But in response to what you posted, during the course of setting up, the sound man discovering the 1000 line out, & sound checking, I didn't experience hiss, I experienced severe BUZZ which I knew I was having a ground loop problem. No biggie, but it does make you insecure when everyone elses wall of amps, processors, etc. are fine & yours is the ONLY rig that is acting up. I only need two outlets, but I had to lose my power strip, plug in direct to the source & make sure both plugs were lifted. Once I sweated the bullets & figured that out, the amp was QUIET, the tone out of the speaker & line was right on the money, then it started to become fun.
You Randy, saying "hiss" makes me think that it could be the unit, dunno. But then again, what you call a hiss could be the same as what I call a buzz. I will say this; I got rid of the ground loop once, walked away, the sound man plugged the XLR into my amp, the loop came back. Yikes. It was then that I took the power strip out, plug my lifted plugs into the band's junction box, then all became well.
In my case, the obvious suggestion to Mike & Peavey would be for a ground switch, but on the many amps I've owned in the past, I have not found ground switches to be as effective as the good ol', little 3 to 2 ground lifter. Since I've historically been able to solve grounding problems, the ground switch thing is not an issue.
So there's more facts. But once I got the ground loops out, it did sound lovely.

Randy Pettit · Post by **Randy Pettit** » 29 Jul 2002 8:16 am

Thanks Rex. I'm 99% sure it's not a grounding or current issue, because it's not a hum or buzz. The hissing decreases when the highs are cut. I first discovered this when lining out directly into a headphone monitor amp. The hissing was so loud in my monitor, we had to ditch the line-out idea and mic the amp. You can still hear some of the hiss through the speaker, but it's not near as loud. Our sound guy still hears it through the mic and doesn't like it. Not sure what to do about it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 29 Jul 2002 10:33 am

No problem, Randy. I'm definitely no expert in electronics only from trial & err. I've done enough work in the past to know that even as quiet & trouble free as your rig may be that it can become subject to a different environment, sound man, engineer, etc. It wouldn't surprise me that I could be placed in a band with a totally different sound co. & end up experiencing the same problems you're having.
What you're saying so far makes me think that the problem is in your 1000 itself & that the monitor amp only augmented the problem. My amp does have a typical solid state hiss, but it hasn't been noticable enough to be intrusive.
I'm with you; maybe other Nshvl 1000 owners may have some insight on the "over-hiss" problem, or maybe Mike might be so kind as to give a comment or 2 on this matter.
Thanx again for the replys, Randy. IMHO, this is the way to help get these bugs worked out.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 29 Jul 2002 10:42 am

I have almost the same problem with my Stereo Steel amp once in a while. Most times I can run XLR direct from the amp to the PA with no problems, but sometimes with the same PA even lifting the ground doesn't help the buzz and I have to mike a speaker.

The biggest headache is that we use ear monitors so everyone in the band runs direct, and I'm the only one stuck with carrying my speakers just in case it's one of those nights where the buzz is unbearable.