Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
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Brian Lenherr
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Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
Hey there. Has anyone tried the IK Multimedia Z-Tone? How does it compare to the Sarno Black Box.
Noticed it scrolling around the other night and it just sparked my curiosity. Especially since it’s 1/3 the price.
Noticed it scrolling around the other night and it just sparked my curiosity. Especially since it’s 1/3 the price.
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
Very intriguing! Love it that it has an input gain knob that you can decrease -8db
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
The Black Box is tube-based. The Z-tone is solid state.
If we're going to compare the Z-tone to a Sarno preamp, it is more comparable to the solid state Freeloader than the Black Box... but one with a lot more features.
If we're going to compare the Z-tone to a Sarno preamp, it is more comparable to the solid state Freeloader than the Black Box... but one with a lot more features.
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
But wouldn’t the JFET switch add some color like a tube does? So you can have the solid state option or the tube (like) option?
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
The Freeloader uses a JFET as well.
The Z-Tone has a balanced output, but that seems a bit useless for PSG, since you wouldn't normally want to send your signal to a PA before it goes through your volume pedal.
I don't see any features on the Z-Tone that improve significantly on the Freeloader for PSG, and the Freeloader's smaller clip-on enclosure is a big advantage over the Z-Tone. My opinion.
They include amp modeling software, so I suppose that might appeal to some.
The Z-Tone has a balanced output, but that seems a bit useless for PSG, since you wouldn't normally want to send your signal to a PA before it goes through your volume pedal.
I don't see any features on the Z-Tone that improve significantly on the Freeloader for PSG, and the Freeloader's smaller clip-on enclosure is a big advantage over the Z-Tone. My opinion.
They include amp modeling software, so I suppose that might appeal to some.
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
I did not know that…and I’ve been praising FreeLoaders for years!The Freeloader uses a JFET as well.
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
Can you elaborate on that, Dave?
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
I'm not Dave, but the Freeloader is "just" a variable input impedance buffer that only minimally colors the tone in a way that many find pleasant and is never bypassed. The Z-Tone is a preamp and DI with various tone shaping options including boost and distortion.
What it has in common with the Freeloader and the Black Box is the variable input impedance which functions a sort of tone control.
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
Excellent! Thanks Fred! That’s really helpful and I greatly appreciate it!
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Re: Sarno Black Box vs IK Z-Tone
Thanks Fred 