Buffers, before or after effects
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Dwight Lewis
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Buffers, before or after effects
Question: I run a 5 pedal effects setup with my goodrich omni vp, (Pedal steel Guitar 19kohm pickup>>Goodrich 500kohmVP>>TC Elec. MojoMojo>>MXR Duke of Tone>>MXR M234 Analog Chorus >>MXR M300 Analog Reverb>>MXR M169Analog Delay>>Peavey Nashville 112). At room volumes, my tone and sound is as sweet as can be. At concert volumes (cranked) seems as though I lose some attack or push. Cables are GL 3FT AND 6FT. Do I need a buffer at the end of my signal into my amp?
Dwight
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Dwight
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Fred
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Re: Buffers, before or after effects
At higher volumes the amp probably doesn't have enough power to reproduce the transient that we perceive as attack. The attack portion of the signal will max out well before the sustained portion. The amp also has something that Peavey calls "DDT compression speaker protection". This may also soften the attack a bit.
More power may be the answer you're looking for. Not to play louder, but to catch the attack of a clean sound without hitting the rails.
More power may be the answer you're looking for. Not to play louder, but to catch the attack of a clean sound without hitting the rails.
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Dale Rivard
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Re: Buffers, before or after effects
Hi Dwight, Typically, a buffer or preamp is placed in line before the effects. Right after the pickup, even before the volume pedal. It helps recapture some of the clarity that can be lost when using effect pedals. However, I find that when I turn up most amps to a higher volume, the sharpness(brightness) of the tone is even more present. When you say you lose some attack or push at louder volumes, is your sound(tone) also changing? Fred brings up a good point. I have a Peavey, Nashville 112 and have experienced exactly what he describes at extreme volume levels. I now use a Fender Twin Tone Master for live shows and have had the volume on 7 with no issues. If you're playing at very loud volumes, it could be you need an amp with more power(headroom).
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Dennis Detweiler
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Re: Buffers, before or after effects
I've never owned a 112, but I know a couple of players that had to play through two of them to gain more coverage.
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