Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
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Larry Behm
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Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
I have played for over 53 years. Have had many steels-amps-speakers-effects etc.
My latest amp is a Tone block 202, I am never happy with the midrange settings. I added a setting on my Zoom MS50g called a parametric EQ, this helped. (I have a Boss GE7 midrange modified coming this week)
I recently added a Quilter 15”cab with a JBL 15 to my chain, I liked it, I liked it…
I went back to my George L cables now that I have a more (round fuller)sound, it cleaned up the low end greatly.
At my gig Sunday I was like a kid in a candy store with my sound, I played better, I smiled more.
My point here-is don’t stop looking, do not settle, it is attainable, it is up to you. Remember we are in charge of the machines—-until further notice.
My latest amp is a Tone block 202, I am never happy with the midrange settings. I added a setting on my Zoom MS50g called a parametric EQ, this helped. (I have a Boss GE7 midrange modified coming this week)
I recently added a Quilter 15”cab with a JBL 15 to my chain, I liked it, I liked it…
I went back to my George L cables now that I have a more (round fuller)sound, it cleaned up the low end greatly.
At my gig Sunday I was like a kid in a candy store with my sound, I played better, I smiled more.
My point here-is don’t stop looking, do not settle, it is attainable, it is up to you. Remember we are in charge of the machines—-until further notice.
'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS 3 1/2” long bar, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Quilter Toneblock 202 and Quilter TT 15 cab with JBL K130, Joyo Ebow.
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Fred Kelly D3-H-8 Delrin speed pick (White), Dunlop finger picks-.0225
Phone: 971-219-8533
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Brett Day
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
I've been playing steel for 26 years now and have finally found the sound that inspires me-the sound I've looked for for 26 years is the sound of steel like you hear on country records. I don't use reverb, distortion, or a lot of effects because I look for a clean steel sound. I've found it too by using a polymer bar. I'm currently running my Jackson Blackjack Custom through a Peavey Nashville 112, which has been my main amplifier for 22 years. My Jackson has a Shot Jackson pickup. Before the Jackson, I had two other steels-a 1974 Emmons GS-10 and a GFI Ultra D-10. I'm not really sure what the pickup was on the Emmons, but the GFI had two GFI-II pickups. I used a Peavey Rage 108 and Fender Champion 30 before the 112 and my Jackson guitar is nearing 16 years as my main steel.
Brett Day-Jackson Blackjack Custom SD-10, Gretsch G9210 Boxcar Dobro, GoldTone Paul Beard Signature Series Deluxe Dobro
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Skip Edwards
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
Ok, so let me relate a story that somehow is relevant.
Sometimes the sound that we seek in our heads can be clouded by what we’re thinking as we’re playing.
If that makes any sense…
In 1976 I was on tour with Chris Hillman, playing steel & keys. We were opening for The Band, so we were playing venues of a certain size.
I was really unhappy with the sound I was getting out of my steel - a ’72 6139 Sho-Bud (totally stock) thru a Twin with 2 12” JBLs. (What’s not to like about that, right?)
Whatever, I was not a happy camper with the sound I was getting.
One afternoon we were in Philly, playing at the old Spectrum arena. I was walking from our dressing room out to the hall, on the way to soundcheck. The sound company (Showco, as I remember it) was ringing out the system and playing some tune…a ballad with a really nice steel playing a solo. I couldn't make out what it was at first.
I thought, “Now why doesn’t my steel sound like that? That’s the sound I like…the way i want my guitar to sound.”
You know where this is going, right?
Yep… it was us from a couple nights ago, and I was hearing my solo on Sin City.
I was dumbstruck. My guitar sounds like that? I made up with my steel, decided to keep it (still have it), and worked on my playing and my sound.
I’m not sure what the moral is to this story, or how relevant it is, but that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled program…
Sometimes the sound that we seek in our heads can be clouded by what we’re thinking as we’re playing.
If that makes any sense…
In 1976 I was on tour with Chris Hillman, playing steel & keys. We were opening for The Band, so we were playing venues of a certain size.
I was really unhappy with the sound I was getting out of my steel - a ’72 6139 Sho-Bud (totally stock) thru a Twin with 2 12” JBLs. (What’s not to like about that, right?)
Whatever, I was not a happy camper with the sound I was getting.
One afternoon we were in Philly, playing at the old Spectrum arena. I was walking from our dressing room out to the hall, on the way to soundcheck. The sound company (Showco, as I remember it) was ringing out the system and playing some tune…a ballad with a really nice steel playing a solo. I couldn't make out what it was at first.
I thought, “Now why doesn’t my steel sound like that? That’s the sound I like…the way i want my guitar to sound.”
You know where this is going, right?
Yep… it was us from a couple nights ago, and I was hearing my solo on Sin City.
I was dumbstruck. My guitar sounds like that? I made up with my steel, decided to keep it (still have it), and worked on my playing and my sound.
I’m not sure what the moral is to this story, or how relevant it is, but that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled program…
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Donny Hinson
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
Maybe it's just me, but I hope I never get to the point where only one sound or one tone inspires me.
To elaborate a little, at a steel guitar jam last June in Nashville, there were almost a dozen players in attendance, and with many brands featured. But I can honestly say I didn't hear a "bad sound" from any of them. Different? Yes, but not really "bad". Different tones, different amps, different sounds; variety. Take guitar players, for instance. I sometimes see them with 3, 5, 8, or even more Teles, or copies of them. If one "sound" was all they were looking for, why would they have (keep) so many? But it seems steelers aren't like that. One sound one tone, that's it.
Food for thought, anyway.
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David Wren
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
So glad to read this post. Thanks to Mr. Behm, and for this, and his previous post as well. I see Skip Edwards and Donny have replied (Skip, you may know my good friend and former bandmate Larry Park, as he also toured with Chris Hillman).
All of course is fine commentary... but what I would like to see is reaction from the younger, maybe even beginning crowd of steel players. Fellows, this is your forum, use to get more familiar with your fantastic instrument.
All of course is fine commentary... but what I would like to see is reaction from the younger, maybe even beginning crowd of steel players. Fellows, this is your forum, use to get more familiar with your fantastic instrument.
Dave Wren
'25 Williams U12, 7X7; '96 Carter U12, 7X7; '70 MSA D10, 8X5; 1936 7 string National; Line 6 HX Stomp; P2P "Bad Dog amp/ PF 350 12"; Quilter TT-15/TB202; Quilter "Steelaire"; DV Mark "GH 250"with 15" 1501 BW; Boss "Katana" 100 Head w/Line 6 Cab; Telonics VP; 1951 Fender Dual Professional; '76 Webb 6-14 E amp/ Telonics 15" speaker; 2026 Milkman "Half and Half" amp.
'25 Williams U12, 7X7; '96 Carter U12, 7X7; '70 MSA D10, 8X5; 1936 7 string National; Line 6 HX Stomp; P2P "Bad Dog amp/ PF 350 12"; Quilter TT-15/TB202; Quilter "Steelaire"; DV Mark "GH 250"with 15" 1501 BW; Boss "Katana" 100 Head w/Line 6 Cab; Telonics VP; 1951 Fender Dual Professional; '76 Webb 6-14 E amp/ Telonics 15" speaker; 2026 Milkman "Half and Half" amp.
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Rick Campbell
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
I agree 100%. Good players always sound good to me. Different, but still good. There's no magic pickups, amps, effects, etc... , I spent a lot of money over the years to teach myself that. I can sound equally bad with any setup.Donny Hinson wrote: 8 Jan 2026 5:00 pmDon’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
Maybe it's just me, but I hope I never get to the point where only one sound or one tone inspires me.![]()
To elaborate a little, at a steel guitar jam last June in Nashville, there were almost a dozen players in attendance, and with many brands featured. But I can honestly say I didn't hear a "bad sound" from any of them. Different? Yes, but not really "bad". Different tones, different amps, different sounds; variety. Take guitar players, for instance. I sometimes see them with 3, 5, 8, or even more Teles, or copies of them. If one "sound" was all they were looking for, why would they have (keep) so many? But it seems steelers aren't like that. One sound one tone, that's it.![]()
Food for thought, anyway.![]()
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RC
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Dale Rottacker
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Re: Don’t stop looking for a sound that inspires you
To me "GOOD Steel Sound", falls within an envelope of sound, depending on how big that envelope is kinda determines is your sound falls into it. There are a dozen or more guitar company's and thousands of folks playing those guitars. All with different guitars/amps/effects/HANDS and ears, AND I dare say, different ideas and opinions on what "good sound" is. That can vary with me from day to day or song to song. Same guitar same settings, same process, different song, one sounds great, one sounds like a herd of cats at a rocking chair convention.
Buddy/Lloyd/John/Doug/Paul/Tom/Curly ... ALL great musicians ALL different sounds, ALL inspiring with the sounds they created.
Buddy/Lloyd/John/Doug/Paul/Tom/Curly ... ALL great musicians ALL different sounds, ALL inspiring with the sounds they created.
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