Chloe/ My First Attempt
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Chloe/ My First Attempt
Hey,
When I first started to play steel guitar my inspiration came from recordings of the many Hawaiian players that I llistened to and loved: I had been collecting this music for many years prior and it t was my intention to learn as many Hawaiin instrumentals as I could. But as soon as I learned to articulate a few chords and play some simple melodies I found myself backing up singers / songwriters, and playing in bands where I could lend some steel sounds, playing little runs and funny little fills (John Hartford reference). I never really got around to learning the Hawaiian tunes that I love so much.
Last year I decided to dive in and learn as many of my Hawaiian favorites as possible in hopes of presenting them live in a band decated to presenting Hawaiian music as well as other music that was influenced by the Hawaiiian style of playing. It as been difficult. I needed to adjust how I approach everything and found there is no place to hide. I had an opprtunity to record (rough) a few songs recently and thought I would share my work so far. This a version of Chloe, a tune which everybody loves. I play it a little slow and have left out some important details but it is a work in progress. I am not sure I know the proper way to lnk music to this site so let me know if you cant play it.
Best
Gary
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When I first started to play steel guitar my inspiration came from recordings of the many Hawaiian players that I llistened to and loved: I had been collecting this music for many years prior and it t was my intention to learn as many Hawaiin instrumentals as I could. But as soon as I learned to articulate a few chords and play some simple melodies I found myself backing up singers / songwriters, and playing in bands where I could lend some steel sounds, playing little runs and funny little fills (John Hartford reference). I never really got around to learning the Hawaiian tunes that I love so much.
Last year I decided to dive in and learn as many of my Hawaiian favorites as possible in hopes of presenting them live in a band decated to presenting Hawaiian music as well as other music that was influenced by the Hawaiiian style of playing. It as been difficult. I needed to adjust how I approach everything and found there is no place to hide. I had an opprtunity to record (rough) a few songs recently and thought I would share my work so far. This a version of Chloe, a tune which everybody loves. I play it a little slow and have left out some important details but it is a work in progress. I am not sure I know the proper way to lnk music to this site so let me know if you cant play it.
Best
Gary
https://on.soundcloud.com/U4If1bDklnzgSXrXST
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Aloha Gary,
Very nice work all around! It was pleasing to listen to.
I like how you went for the vintage steel sound. Almost sounds like you're listening through an old telephone.
Keep making more!
Very nice work all around! It was pleasing to listen to.
I like how you went for the vintage steel sound. Almost sounds like you're listening through an old telephone.
Keep making more!
Aloha,
Mike K

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Mike K
1932 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 7string Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite (C Diatonic), 1937 7string Epiphone Electar (Jerry Byrd's E9), 1937 Epiphone Electar (C#m9), 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite (Feet's D), 1950 Supro (Open F), 1950's Rickenbacher ACE (C6), 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan (A6), 1957 National New Yorker (Jerry's E13), 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster (A6, C6, Noel's E13, C Diatonic), 1961 Supro (Open A), 8string VanderDonck Frypan (Buddy Emmons's C6).
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Love it! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Gents,
Thanks fo the encouragement. Michael your guess is very close to what I am playng through: it is Fender Champ 5F2A style amp that I bult last year. The guitar is one of my many, homemade 6 string short scale Hawaiian guitars. I am trying to get a very old, boxy, compressed sound, but I may have it too much so.
The speaker is a ten inch alnico speaker rated at 75 watts from an old Music Mann amp. It was just reconed and might be too tight - I don't know. I do want to put in another speaker that might open up the sound a little more. My usual set up is a Milkman, The Amp, through a SICA 12"speaker. Everything sounds great through it but to my ears (and they are shot) it can sound a liitle too neutral. I wanted to make something with a lot of character which this amp has. And by the way it is loud. I can tailor the tone a little with diffrent preamp tubes - I'll keep tinkering.
The guitar is ash with a Vintage Vibe CC pickup, I have thought about switching out the pickup. I have another guitar, kind of a Les Paul, mahgany and maple arrangment with VVCC pickup as well. I dont like it much and am considering a Lollar F spacing P90 for it or maybe a Lollar Chicago Steel but they sound harsh too me.
All the screwing around with building guitars is so I can always have something that is set up as close to my Rickenbacker B6 as possible. I am switching tunings often and using several guitars. I generally have no problem changing scale length and spacing, except during a show it much easier if the guitars feel similar to one another. And l really like short scale, wider spacing sixstringers. Todd Clinesmith is making me a 6 string short scale with a horseshoe pickup to match my Ricky. I might get rid of some Fenders that I have.
I 'll post more music when I get a chance.
Thanks,
Gary
Thanks fo the encouragement. Michael your guess is very close to what I am playng through: it is Fender Champ 5F2A style amp that I bult last year. The guitar is one of my many, homemade 6 string short scale Hawaiian guitars. I am trying to get a very old, boxy, compressed sound, but I may have it too much so.
The speaker is a ten inch alnico speaker rated at 75 watts from an old Music Mann amp. It was just reconed and might be too tight - I don't know. I do want to put in another speaker that might open up the sound a little more. My usual set up is a Milkman, The Amp, through a SICA 12"speaker. Everything sounds great through it but to my ears (and they are shot) it can sound a liitle too neutral. I wanted to make something with a lot of character which this amp has. And by the way it is loud. I can tailor the tone a little with diffrent preamp tubes - I'll keep tinkering.
The guitar is ash with a Vintage Vibe CC pickup, I have thought about switching out the pickup. I have another guitar, kind of a Les Paul, mahgany and maple arrangment with VVCC pickup as well. I dont like it much and am considering a Lollar F spacing P90 for it or maybe a Lollar Chicago Steel but they sound harsh too me.
All the screwing around with building guitars is so I can always have something that is set up as close to my Rickenbacker B6 as possible. I am switching tunings often and using several guitars. I generally have no problem changing scale length and spacing, except during a show it much easier if the guitars feel similar to one another. And l really like short scale, wider spacing sixstringers. Todd Clinesmith is making me a 6 string short scale with a horseshoe pickup to match my Ricky. I might get rid of some Fenders that I have.
I 'll post more music when I get a chance.
Thanks,
Gary
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Very nice!
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Gary Meixner wrote: 12 Aug 2025 4:47 pm Gents,
Thanks fo the encouragement. Michael your guess is very close to what I am playng through: it is Fender Champ 5F2A style amp that I bult last year. The guitar is one of my many, homemade 6 string short scale Hawaiian guitars. I am trying to get a very old, boxy, compressed sound, but I may have it too much so.
The speaker is a ten inch alnico speaker rated at 75 watts from an old Music Mann amp. It was just reconed and might be too tight - I don't know. I do want to put in another speaker that might open up the sound a little more. My usual set up is a Milkman, The Amp, through a SICA 12"speaker. Everything sounds great through it but to my ears (and they are shot) it can sound a liitle too neutral. I wanted to make something with a lot of character which this amp has. And by the way it is loud. I can tailor the tone a little with diffrent preamp tubes - I'll keep tinkering.
The guitar is ash with a Vintage Vibe CC pickup, I have thought about switching out the pickup. I have another guitar, kind of a Les Paul, mahgany and maple arrangment with VVCC pickup as well. I dont like it much and am considering a Lollar F spacing P90 for it or maybe a Lollar Chicago Steel but they sound harsh too me.
All the screwing around with building guitars is so I can always have something that is set up as close to my Rickenbacker B6 as possible. I am switching tunings often and using several guitars. I generally have no problem changing scale length and spacing, except during a show it much easier if the guitars feel similar to one another. And l really like short scale, wider spacing sixstringers. Todd Clinesmith is making me a 6 string short scale with a horseshoe pickup to match my Ricky. I might get rid of some Fenders that I have.
I 'll post more music when I get a chance.
Thanks,
Gary
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Yes Gary, please post more music when you have a chance. Your playing was great. Very nice tone. If possible could you post a picture of the guitar you built and used on this recording? Also a pic of the amp would be great as well. Keep up the good work. Loved the post.
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
Gary, that was really enjoyable. Relaxed feel and vibe and nice acoustic Spanish guitar for contrast. Well done!
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Re: Chloe/ My First Attempt
That song got me interested in Hawaiian steel when I heard it in the 70's. I played that track over and over. Nice job, Gary! Sounds great!