BRIDGE QUESTION - For my Aluminum Vega Restoration
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BRIDGE QUESTION - For my Aluminum Vega Restoration
Making Slow progress (senior Citizen) even slow on must-do's too. My fret board is almost completed. I started with a bare aluminum body - needing everything replaced.
I am told these originally had a wood bridge. I will need to make a Bridge to fit the slot in the cast aluminum body.
I have a wide choice of materials on hand - but I'm favoring STEEL to make the most of whatever resonance the Aluminum Body may offer, The NUT is permanently cast part of the aluminum neck/body. I've seen all kinds of bridges on lap steels - & would appreciate hearing thoughts (PRO & CON) from those who know more than I do. I could even try both type bridges, but I want a bridge to bring out the Aluminum's unique tone qualities. Thanks up front, C.
I am told these originally had a wood bridge. I will need to make a Bridge to fit the slot in the cast aluminum body.
I have a wide choice of materials on hand - but I'm favoring STEEL to make the most of whatever resonance the Aluminum Body may offer, The NUT is permanently cast part of the aluminum neck/body. I've seen all kinds of bridges on lap steels - & would appreciate hearing thoughts (PRO & CON) from those who know more than I do. I could even try both type bridges, but I want a bridge to bring out the Aluminum's unique tone qualities. Thanks up front, C.
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Re: BRIDGE QUESTION - For my Aluminum Vega Restoration
Aloha Craig,
What a gorgeous restoration!
My favorite material for saddles and nuts is BRASS. I get Ryan Rukavina to machine custom nuts and saddles for my steels for me. I just remove the original nuts and saddles and mail them to him. He does great work, very fair priced, and great to communicate with.
rukavina.guitar@gmail.com
https://www.rukavinaguitars.com
In fact, I just mailed a 1960's Supro nut to him and he's gonna make me one out of brass.
You can also take careful measurement of the body cavity with a caliper and send Ryan those measurements, and he'll fabricate using those.
I'm telling you, brass makes a big difference in tone, and I find it very pleasing. I have no empirically quantifiable data, just my personal experience. I prefer brass above all other materials for nuts and saddles: bakelite, steel, aluminum, etc.
Brass is just a very musical metal. There's good reason why band and orchestral instruments are made using brass.
I have an 8 string frypan made by Jan Vanderdock in the Netherlands. He was a sweet man. The steel is SOLID aluminum, lol. 12+ lb body. haha. That said, the nut needed to be replaced. string spacing was off. I had Ryan make me a replacement Brass nut and saddle (originals were aluminum I assume, or maybe steel). INSTANT tone improvement, and the tone was good before the switch.
Enjoy!
What a gorgeous restoration!
My favorite material for saddles and nuts is BRASS. I get Ryan Rukavina to machine custom nuts and saddles for my steels for me. I just remove the original nuts and saddles and mail them to him. He does great work, very fair priced, and great to communicate with.
rukavina.guitar@gmail.com
https://www.rukavinaguitars.com
In fact, I just mailed a 1960's Supro nut to him and he's gonna make me one out of brass.
You can also take careful measurement of the body cavity with a caliper and send Ryan those measurements, and he'll fabricate using those.
I'm telling you, brass makes a big difference in tone, and I find it very pleasing. I have no empirically quantifiable data, just my personal experience. I prefer brass above all other materials for nuts and saddles: bakelite, steel, aluminum, etc.
Brass is just a very musical metal. There's good reason why band and orchestral instruments are made using brass.
I have an 8 string frypan made by Jan Vanderdock in the Netherlands. He was a sweet man. The steel is SOLID aluminum, lol. 12+ lb body. haha. That said, the nut needed to be replaced. string spacing was off. I had Ryan make me a replacement Brass nut and saddle (originals were aluminum I assume, or maybe steel). INSTANT tone improvement, and the tone was good before the switch.
Enjoy!
Aloha,
Mike K

1932 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 7string Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite (C Diatonic), 1937 7string Epiphone Electar (Jerry Byrd's E9), 1937 Epiphone Electar (C#m9), 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite (Feet's D), 1950 Supro (Open F), 1950's Rickenbacher ACE (C6), 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan (A6), 1957 National New Yorker (Jerry's E13), 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster (A6, C6, Noel's E13, C Diatonic), 1961 Supro (Open A), 8string VanderDonck Frypan (Buddy Emmons's C6).
Mike K
1932 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 7string Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite (C Diatonic), 1937 7string Epiphone Electar (Jerry Byrd's E9), 1937 Epiphone Electar (C#m9), 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite (Feet's D), 1950 Supro (Open F), 1950's Rickenbacher ACE (C6), 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan (A6), 1957 National New Yorker (Jerry's E13), 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster (A6, C6, Noel's E13, C Diatonic), 1961 Supro (Open A), 8string VanderDonck Frypan (Buddy Emmons's C6).
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Re: BRIDGE QUESTION - For my Aluminum Vega Restoration
I agree with Mike. Brass is a very good metal to use. I have made several bridges and nuts using it. My complaint with it is it gets tarnished quickly. No matter how much of a buffing you put on it, it will tarnish. I prefer using 6061 aluminum for nuts and bridges. Once buffed they stay looking good for a long time. They also have very good tonal characteristics. Probably not as brite as brass, but that could be a plus depending on what sound you like. I would not use steel, it will rust. Stainless steel is good but hard to work.
Currently own, 6 Groner-tone lap steels, one 1953 Alamo Lap steel, Roland Cube, Fender Champion 40
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Re: BRIDGE QUESTION - For my Aluminum Vega Restoration
Thanks gentlemen ! Experience wins - BRASS IT IS. ....... Found a nice piece of cast brass in my scrap metal collection.
Again Many Thanks, C..
Again Many Thanks, C..