Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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Bill McCloskey
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Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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I’m about to pick up a new steel with kind of an odd change on the C6 neck. Anyone seen this before: string 5 & 6 lowered a whole tone: G->F. E->D ?
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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That's a cool change. It puts the tuning into a big F6.
I've wondered in the past why it isn't more common, and I think its because those intervals are all available in the open tuning, and because the more common variation of that idea, lowering just 5 G to F possibly offers a more interesting and useful voicing that is also mechanically lighter...
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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It also puts a nice Dm7 on the same fret as the open string c maj along with a rootless Gdom7 (with the RKL) for a nice ii V I on the same fret.
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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Ya definitely some uses for it. Kind of like a reverse pedal7 in the lower register.
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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I raise my Cs to D and Es to F for a similar outcome but not all on the same pedal/lever
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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Bill, I believe Maurice Anderson had that equivalent on his Bb tuning. I get it by lowering s5+6 on pedals and raising s3+4 and s7+8 on opposite knee levers. It opens up many variations, but can be pitchy unless you tune ET.
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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I don't see the point of lowering both those strings a whole tone - that's what P7 is for :)
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Re: Lowering strings 5 and 6 a whole tone on C6

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Well, for one, while pedal 7 will give you a C6 on the 5th fret on strings 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6, the new pedal gives you a C6 on strings 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 as well a a C maj7 chord on strings 2, 3, 4, 5,
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