Re-Recording A Crappy CD

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 26 Aug 2005 6:26 pm

Is it possible to re-burn a scratchy CD [a CD that skips and sounds like Sh...] to your PC, and then take that data and burn another CD, in the hopes of eliminating all of the 1st CD's problems.

I'm thinking, no way Jose. But, as the Forum's tenets say, it never hurts to ask?

Thanks, guys.

Chipper

Jim Phelps · Post by **Jim Phelps** » 26 Aug 2005 6:43 pm

I'm thinking no, but could be wrong.

Gary Shepherd · Post by **Gary Shepherd** » 26 Aug 2005 7:35 pm

Yes, but only if the original CD is not so bad that it will not read. You'll need a CD Ripper program to rip the cda files to wav files. Be sure to rip to .wav and 44k 16 bit.

Depending on how bad the scratches are, your drive may need several passed to read all of a given file. But if it can read the file, you can reburn it.

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Steinar Gregertsen · Post by **Steinar Gregertsen** » 26 Aug 2005 7:48 pm

You can rip a CD with Windows Media Player.

Steinar

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Nic du Toit · Post by **Nic du Toit** » 27 Aug 2005 1:55 am

If your CD is not readable because it is too scratched, try some Brasso or other very fine liquid polish to carefully polish out the scratches.
If the other side (the side you write on) has been damaged, you might be out of luck.

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Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 27 Aug 2005 8:48 am

Thanks fellas, for all your comments.

For the cheap cost of a CD, I was going to burn it anyway, but I wanted to get some ideas from the Forum. My brother passed away recently and left me a CD binder filled with all the classic Dylan albums, starting with "Freewheelin' Bob Dylan", but many are definitely in rough shape.

BTW, Gary, why does it have to be ripped to .WAV @ 44K 16 bit? Can I just rip it to an MP3 file? I can do this with SB Audigy2.
I also can rip with WMP v.10

I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Chipper

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 27 Aug 2005 12:11 pm

Once you retrieve the music tracks off the CD and into the PC as .wav files, if you can get a copy of an editing program, you can play the tracks, and even cut and paste pieces of different copies of the same track, to rebuild it in data form.

Then re-record the .wav files back to a music CD as music tracks. Try to run the CD burn at 4x (preferred) or 8x to insure it will play in most players.

I use DartPro32, Sound Forge, and Creative Soundstream for my work.[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 27 August 2005 at 02:53 PM.]

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 27 Aug 2005 5:06 pm

Hi guys.

Well, guess what? I'm now listening to track
11, "It Aint Me Babe" off of ANOTHER SIDE OF BOB DYLAN.

Been listening to the entire CD on the PC sound system.

NOT ONE GLITCH. NOT ONE.

My initial complaint was from playing the CD in my truck's CD player. A $100 JVC player.
Not more than 4-5 months old.

OK - did I get what I payed for???

This Dylan CD is playing flawlessly, but believe me, when you hold it up to the light,
it's so scratched up, you wonder if this thing will play at all.

But, dang, the thing is playing beautifully, as I type away.

NOW WHAT, all you experts???

Thanks guys.

Chipper

John Daugherty · Post by **John Daugherty** » 28 Aug 2005 4:47 am

This situation occurs when you burn a CD at a faster rate than the player can read it. It sounds like scratches but it isn't.
If your CD is a copy which was "burned". It was burned faster than the JVC can read it. I have seen this happen with CD players in new trucks.
This may not apply in your case, but it does happen.

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Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 28 Aug 2005 8:28 am

Thanks John.

The JVC player I bought at Circuit City and is in my 1995 Chevy van.I know what you're saying about the "burn" speed. That Dylan CD is the original commercial CD.
I have to admit that one time when another CD was acting up, and driving me bananas, I gave the JVC a wack with my hand [you know, when all else fails, just give something a wack with a hammer].
Anyway, by me doing this, I probably screwed the player up permanently.

Maybe the player in the PC is just a better player?

Gary Shepherd · Post by **Gary Shepherd** » 28 Aug 2005 10:27 am

You can rip to something other than 44-16. But you will lose quality. If you rip to .mp3, and then burn an audio cd, it will be converted back to 44-16. So it has now been converted at least twice while you've had it - not to mention the conversion proccess used in the original recording of the cd.

If you're just going to listen to .mp3 files, then it doesn't matter. But if you'll be making an audio disc, then the analogy is copying a page in a book, and then making a copy of the copy. The quality degrades with each new generation copy.

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Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 28 Aug 2005 10:36 am

Thanks again Gary. I see the difference. Good advice.

Nic du Toit · Post by **Nic du Toit** » 29 Aug 2005 9:54 am

Chip,
Glad your problem got fixed.
I have a program that does Digital Extraction from damaged CDs. I've managed to repair and remaster CDs that would not play anywhere. Not even the PC could 'see' the CD.
So, short of being physically broken, most CDs can be rescued.
I won't go into technical detail, suffice to say that I've been operating a recording and mastering fascility for a number of years now. For technical jargon, go the site 'digido.com'. The big dude there is called Bob.

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Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 29 Aug 2005 1:01 pm

Thanks Nic,

I'll have to check out that site. I hope I can absorb some of it, anyway.

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 31 Aug 2005 7:48 pm

Update!

I went ahead and ripped "Another Side Of Bob Dylan" using my sound card, SB Audigy2.

I made a CD and burned it at the lowest setting, 4X?.

Have been listening to it in my van for the past 2 days, going over bumps and knocks etc., and heard only 1 misfire. The CD played beautifully.

I just don't get it?