Posting Tab With a Mac

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 13 Mar 2004 3:09 pm

I just got a Mac G4 and want to post tab on The Forum. What is the most efficient way to do it? Is there anything on the Mac comparable to Notepad on the PC? Also, what is a "clipboard" used for and how does on access it? thanks, steve

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 13 Mar 2004 3:59 pm

Steve,
TextEdit is like Notepad; in your applications folder.
When you select something and press Command + "C" the selction is copied to the clipboard. When you place your cursor in another cocument and press Command + "V" the selection is pasted into it. The Command key is the Apple key, to the right of the Option key.

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 14 Mar 2004 5:50 am

Thanks, Cal, I found TextEdit, but when I tried to copy a tab template that I made with an Excel program into TextEdit, all I got were numbers 1 through 10 in a line. It did not look at all like the blank page of tab I had made on the Excel progarm. Thanks,steve

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 14 Mar 2004 8:27 am

Steve,

Excel should be able to "SAVE AS" (under the FILE menu) a web page, or as "html". You can then open the saved file with TextEdit and see the raw html code. That can be copied and pasted into an SGF posting. Try it out on the Feedback And Testing part of the Forum first, just to see how it works out.

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Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 14 Mar 2004 8:38 am

Steve,

Another way is to align the tab you've composed in Excel for full visibility on your screen, use the Mac's "Grab" application to grab the screen image and make an image file, use GraphicConverter (shareware that should have come fully licensed on your G4) to trim the image and save it as a GIF file, post the GIF file on your ISP (or some convenient image serving site), and link to it in a Forum thread.

Yeah, I know, it is kinda complicated....

-Bill

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 15 Mar 2004 11:58 am

Rebel (Graham) sent me a tab template done on notepad and I was able to copy it. Seems to work. I'd still like to find out how to do it on my Mac and will try to figure it out next week. I'd like to thank Roy Thompson, Cal Sharp and Bill Llewellyn in addition to Rebel for their helpful suggestions too.
steve [This message was edited by steve takacs on 15 March 2004 at 12:04 PM.][This message was edited by steve takacs on 15 March 2004 at 06:08 PM.]

Jeff Agnew · Post by **Jeff Agnew** » 16 Mar 2004 8:46 am

It did not look at all like the blank page of tab I had made on the Excel progarm.

That's because you were pasting spreadsheet data into a word processor. Cell formatting doesn't survive the translation.

TextEdit is like Notepad

Not exactly. Notepad is an ASCII text editor and doesn't support formatted text. Versions prior to Win2K don't even support text wrap. TextEdit does support some minimal formatting.

Steve, you can use TextEdit, or Word, or AppleWorks, or any other Mac word processor to create tab. The trick is to use a monospaced font, such as Courier. The default font is usually a proportional font, meaning it adjust spaces between words and letters, and makes it impossible to align text vertically.

The tab you pasted in from Notepad worked because it was monospaced.

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 17 Mar 2004 8:42 am

Monospaced Font is indeed the key:

I created the tab for Hello Trouble- solo in TextEdit using "Andale Mono" on my iMac-an OS X standard font I think.

It's still tricky but at least the notes line up

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 19 May 2004 11:17 am

Jeff & Dave, thanks. Other than those you mentioned, when I go to the list to chose a font on my Apple, how do I know which are mono? steve

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 19 May 2004 11:44 am

The most annoying thing to me is that the text entry box in Safari isn't monospaced. It basically keeps me from doing copedent charts and tab in Forum messages on the fly. I literally must go to TextEdit with a monospaced font and copy/paste from there. Ug!

Easier to use, my ass!

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 19 May 2004 11:44 am

Courier is monospaced, Steve.[This message was edited by b0b on 19 May 2004 at 02:20 PM.]

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 20 May 2004 3:47 pm

b0b, have you loaded up the Mozilla browser? Safari only goes so far. (Was that a pun?) Mozilla is what I use as a default, both for browsing and page composing. It's editor is pretty good, and I think it lets you pick the default font for composing. Either way, changing it to Courier is easy enough....

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 21 May 2004 9:43 am

I actually like Safari. It has handled everything I've thrown at it. Setting the font of the text entry box is the only feature that I miss. It really handles JavaScript and HTML well.

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