Ordered a Mac!

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 10 Mar 2004 11:42 am

Thanks Greg! I just recieved their email and registered for the Toronto workshop.

It's an even better bargain than the $49 cost of iLife.

BTW, it's not a "full-day GarageBand seminar". It's a full day music/MAC seminar.
GB is just one of the products in their outline. [This message was edited by Joey Ace on 10 March 2004 at 12:18 PM.]

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 10 Mar 2004 12:21 pm

bob the Logitech wireles 5 button mouse is very easy on the hand ; great ergonomics.
It also has excelent programability.
You can set different functions for each program if you choose.

2 side buttons, 2 top buttons, and a jog wheel which is also clickable.
A small USB tranceiver attaches to the computer and is very good around other electronics. It tracks great and with my bad carpal tunnel it really is a must for me.

BIAB has a different interface, but essentially works the same.
I have done entire albums starting from MAC BIAB generated midi files as a framework.

All your exisiting BIAB song files should be read seemlessly.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 10 March 2004 at 12:25 PM.]

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 10 Mar 2004 5:24 pm

There is no released version of BIAB that will work with OS X.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 11 Mar 2004 4:14 pm

It arrived yesterday, and I played with it a bit last night. It does include GarageBand. I was a bit disappointed that one of the GarageBand demos didn't run because "the hard disk isn't fast enough". It didn't have all that many tracks!

GarageBand looks a lot like a stripped-down version of Cakewalk that I have on my PC. I wasn't very impressed.

BIAB does a lot of things that GarageBand doesn't do. For example, at jams we can set the number of verses based on how many people are in the room, change the key or change the chord for just one bar. BIAB takes a chord progression and applies a style to it. That's not what GarageBand does at all.

Funny thing - the AirPort found my home wireless network (called "downstairs"), but it kept timing out when I tried to access it. "Status: not available" I'm going to tether it with an ethernet wire tonight, just to do the registration stuff.

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Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 12 Mar 2004 8:02 am

b0b,

Do check on the security of the AirPort setup. A co-worker of mine told me that when his daughter went off to a dorm at college this past Fall with her AirPort-equipped laptop, she powered up her computer and was instantly online on somebody else's ISP. Her laptop apparently just grabbed the nearest AirPort and hooked up, no questions asked. So do check for privacy settings.

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 12 Mar 2004 11:14 pm

How do I do that, Bill?

Edward Efira · Post by **Edward Efira** » 13 Mar 2004 7:41 am

there are several ways to prevent unauthorized access to your network.
you have to launch your Aiport Admin Utility in Applications/Utilities/
the most radical way is to type in the apple id of the authorized computer(s) in the Access Control tab. no other computer will be allowed in.
the more standard way is to put a password and check the "create a closes network" checkbox in the "Airport" tab. it puts your base station in a stealth mode, only users who know the name of your network and the password will be allowed in.
Last, enable the wireless security to 128 bit WEP.
I do all of the above, and although I live in the heart of Hackers Land, nobody ever intruded my network.

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David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 13 Mar 2004 3:55 pm

Mac's are not hacker proof, but they are not bad, and not nearly as big a target as microsoft systems.

It is a good idea to have a decent firewall, but Apple is not bad with security... they have been watching Micorsoft get hammered for years.

And NeXT which was the basis for OS X original was very big in bank and stock market business, neccesitating severe security protocols as SOP.

Several decades of Unix hacking is embodied in the MAC OS, to our general benifit.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 13 March 2004 at 03:58 PM.]

Edward Efira · Post by **Edward Efira** » 13 Mar 2004 5:44 pm

Donald,
Mac OS X includes firewall software you can use to block unwanted network communication with your computer. You can use a firewall to protect all of the services available in Mac OS X, such as Personal File Sharing, Windows Sharing, and Remote Login.
Using a firewall protects the services on your computer from users on other networks or the Internet.
When you select a service in the Services pane of Sharing preferences, it is automatically selected in the Firewall pane. To prevent that service while the firewall is on, turn off the service in the Services pane.

Ed (with OSX help

)[This message was edited by Edward Efira on 13 March 2004 at 05:48 PM.]

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 15 Mar 2004 9:52 pm

Hey, b0b, how are things going with that new Mac?

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 16 Mar 2004 4:07 am

If using DHCP change the renew time to 20 min.

That cured my Airport disconnects.

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 16 Mar 2004 6:30 am

Hi Edward. I have OS X, but mostly use it for video editing and not at the moment my main audio work, that is still OS 9.
So I am online more in 9.

I also have an older OS 8.x Mac as a server for the net with a firewall.
New or old I have very few hacker problems.

In any case OS X is quite robust, and b0b will be having a fine time with it.

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 16 Mar 2004 7:42 am

b0b writes code for a living, and has worked extensively with Unix. I expect he'll love OSX at least for that reason.

(I do.)

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 16 Mar 2004 9:16 pm

b0b writes code for a living, and has worked extensively with Unix.

Actually, I only worked in Unix for about two years, but some things you never forget.

I've been working on a Java program recently. I just pulled the source code over to the Mac and compiled it without much difficulty. It runs almost perfectly! The Java credo of "write once, run anywhere" is actually true. Unfortunately, most Windows users don't have a current version of Java on their machines, though...

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Greg Simmons · Post by **Greg Simmons** » 16 Mar 2004 9:37 pm

WOW - a Mac thread that's onto it's second page

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Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 16 Mar 2004 11:44 pm

Unfortunately, most Windows users don't have a current version of Java on their machines, though...

How would I get a current version of Java for my Windows ME? I tried, but ended up installing some huge slow developer veriosn when all I wanted was to run js better so I uninstalled it.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 17 Mar 2004 1:19 pm

Java is not JavaScript, Earnest. They are two different languages with nothing in common but their name.

To run Java applets (not JavaScript), you need a Java Runtime Engine (JRE). This is a subset of the "huge developer version", but it is still pretty big. You can download it from Sun's web site.

Similarly, to run programs that use Microsoft's .NET you need to have the Common Language Runtime (CLR) installed on your computer. There aren't a lot of versions of the CLR (yet). It's very similar to the JRE in scope and implementation.

Unfortunately, programs written for .NET only run on Windows platforms, because Microsoft hasn't supplied a CLR for any other platforms. Sun, on the other hand, supplies versions of the JRE for all popular platforms, and it is pre-installed on Mac OS X machines.

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<img align=right src="http://b0b.com/Hotb0b.gif" width="96 height="96">Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax

Don Walters · Post by **Don Walters** » 17 Mar 2004 1:58 pm

I'm wondering if the BIAB version for OS X will run on Linux ... ?

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 17 Mar 2004 3:45 pm

If they write it in Java, maybe. Linux uses XWindows for its graphic shell. The Mac interface is, I believe, very different. Java adds an abstraction layer so that code can run on both.

My current Java project for Avery was developed on a PC, but it runs just fine on a Mac. It doesn't LOOK like a native Mac application, though. The Mac has a unique "multiple document interface" (MDI) that's unique among windowed operating systems.

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<img align=right src="http://b0b.com/Hotb0b.gif" width="96 height="96">Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),
Sierra Laptop 8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 17 March 2004 at 03:47 PM.]