Whose web browser can't handle frames?

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 2 Apr 2003 4:08 pm

In the days of old, there were some browsers out there (AOL, maybe?) which would choke on frames-based web pages. Thus you will sometimes see a "click here for a non-frames version" link in some frames-based pages to accommodate such browsers. Do we all need to worry about that anymore? I built a frames-based announcement page for the San Jose jam and I'd like not to have to support a non-frames page in parallel. Here's the new frames page:

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/steeljam_frames.html

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 2 Apr 2003 5:39 pm

I think everyone handles frames now. WebTV does it sort of strangely, though:
http://developer.webtv.net/Develop/Frames.asp

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Garth Highsmith · Post by **Garth Highsmith** » 2 Apr 2003 11:51 pm

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Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 7 Apr 2003 6:37 am

Here's a page listing general browser statistics. I believe that IE 4 through 6 and Netscape 4 and higher accommodate frames. These account for 99% of all browser activity, per this page:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

I use Lynx myself fairly often and I have often wondered what percentage of web surfers use it. As a kind of random pick, below are stats for a university site. In this summary 11,820 hosts contacted the site, of which 3 used Lynx as a browser. This is an engineering site, too.

http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/bstats/latest.html

I did look at my own frame-based steel jam pages using Lynx, and although it takes a little popping about to navigate the framed pages, it very fortunately does work....

Even so, I think I may change the steel jam pages so that each page has a list of links to all the other pages, and remove the frames arrangement. [This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 07 April 2003 at 10:50 AM.]

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 14 Apr 2003 7:13 am

I've changed the jam pages to frameless. Comments on the way I did the interpage link format (one row of links near the top) are welcome. One nice attribute of this method is that you can come into any one of the pages from "outside" and can easily browse to all the other pages.

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/steeljam.html

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Bill, steelin' since '99 | Steel page | My music | Steelers' birthdays | Over 50?[This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 14 April 2003 at 08:15 AM.]