used Fender Twin

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 25 May 2001 8:44 am

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Bill Terry · Post by **Bill Terry** » 25 May 2001 9:00 am

Now Gene.... not ALL Fender tube amps crackle and pop, just the ones that need a little TLC.

Viz, if you've got to have a Twin, find an older Silver Face, Lot's more intrinsic mojo with a fair chance that it will appreciate in value. Do a search on Twin in this message board and you'll find a huge amount of information about Twins.

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Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 25 May 2001 11:31 am

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Bill Terry · Post by **Bill Terry** » 25 May 2001 12:33 pm

Gene, none taken, just funnin' ya.... they can be a little 'contrary' at times can't they?

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 25 May 2001 2:55 pm

Viz, one of my friends here on the FORUM suggested I should elaborate a little on my previous "answer".

When you buy a used amp that won't work (and you can't do your own repairs) you're letting yourself in for all kinds of trouble. Now, from the symptoms you describe, it could very well be a simple electrical problem, requiring only $75-$100 at a shop for repair. Or...it could have other "problems" that are discovered after the electrical problem is straightened out.

Should the amp require new speakers (and it very well might, from your description) it will cost at least $250 for a pair of good ones. Now your "$350 bargain, used amp" has cost you $600-$700. Certainly no bargain!

Bottom line...unless he's willing to knock off another $150-$200, just keep on looking!

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 25 May 2001 3:39 pm

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Bill Terry · Post by **Bill Terry** » 26 May 2001 10:23 am

Donny's right on with that advice about buying an amp needing work. If you're into and capable of doing it yourself, it's very satisfying to turn a 'bargain' into a good working amp. If you have to pay somebody else it can be sorta painful, and a bit of a money pit.

The down side of buying a Twin is that they seem to have some 'built in' value, even if they're not working right, just working at all. I bought a '69 Twin a little over a year ago here in Austin, and I was amazed at what the rattiest working Twins (mostly 70's models) were going for. You have to be patient and find the right one... FYI, I paid $550 for mine, but it was obviously pretty healthy when I played through it, lots of clean, tight volume. I ended up replacing one noisy preamp tube and repairing the reverb connectors, then did a SF to BF conversion, fairly trivial on the very early SFs.

Gene... I know it wasn't funny then, but I had to chuckle at the mental picture of a Bandmaster flying through a barb wire fence.

I found a monitor laying in the road on the way home from a gig one night (early one morning actually), fell out of somebody's truck I guess. It didn't fare so well, it was pretty much firewood.

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CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 26 May 2001 10:58 am

the Twin w: the red knobs is an " Evil Twin "
i've got one and i find the circuitry is cheezy compared to the Black + Silver Faced Twins. Go for 1 of those ViZZZZ....

Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 29 May 2001 10:13 am

I never liked the red-knob Twins. Tried one out and found it totally confusing. I remember seeing Albert Lee play one ten years ago, and although his guitar playing was brilliant, the amp sounded so shrill that it hurt my ears. Later I´ve owned a Silverface that also sounded way too harsh and traded it in for a Blackface (later I learned that it was really a converted Silverface) that instead was completely muddy. Now finally I´ve found a 135 watt Silverface with JBL D-125s that I really like; it has pretty much the sound that I had in mind, a lot warmer than most I´ve been trying, but with sufficient highs. Great for the steel sound that I like and also for guitar, occasionally. Finding the right Fender Amp is very much a matter of luck, I guess - almost no two of them are alike.

Good luck, Joe Henry - Fender Amplifier Man despite it all

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 29 May 2001 9:12 pm

Please stay "AWAY" from those "Red Knob" things they call Fender. They are junk; and should not have the name Fender or Twin on it> In my Opinion.
Get a Real Twin; if that is the original reason you were looking at this amp(you are wanting a Fender Twin sound?); But if you were looking at it because it was cheap> than that's what you found "A CHEAP AMP".
Sorry so blunt; but those things are giving my amp a bad name> and I take that personally; because I have the best amp known to ManKind>

> well except for maybe Bill Terry's

Ricky