Delay Effects

Bryan Ouellette · Post by **Bryan Ouellette** » 2 Sep 2000 12:33 pm

I am looking for a delay unit any recomendations? Are individual effect boxes better than any of the muti-effect units. I presently just play through a Nashville 400 w/ reverb. Also, in addtion to delay what are the most used types of effects (compression,chorus etc.)

Bill Findlay · Post by **Bill Findlay** » 2 Sep 2000 1:53 pm

I use only delay with some reverb on the NV1000. I like the Arion SAD-1 Delay pedal I think it works best with the PSG of any I have heard. It sells for around $125 and usually has to be found at a steel guitar shop......

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 2 Sep 2000 2:06 pm

Hey Bryan. I only have limited experience with effects so consider that with this answer--

One of the big benefits of a good multi unit is user presets.
At the moment my only need is for reverb and/or delay. I use a Boss RV-3 stomp box. Nice and small and it sounds great. But if you want to go from just delay to just reverb or a combination of both you have to do a bunch of tweaking. A multi unit would be a one-touch move. But the good multi's are rack mounts so do you want to add a rack to your rig? On the other hand I know that some folks use floor multi units like Zoom. I don't know about the quality of these.

These are just a few thoughts off the top of my head.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 2 Sep 2000 2:49 pm

In the world of rack mount units, Lexicon is well-know for its lush reverbs and delays. My first step into rack mount was the Lex MPX-100. This is their least expensive unit, at about $225 - $250. I have been really happy with it. It will do reverbs, delays, flange, chorus, etc and etc, and combinations of two f/x. This unit is stereo, but when you run through just one amp, there is an internal bridging device. It sound great through one amp and fantastic through two amps.

It has tons of presets, but you can tailor the presets to suit your taste and then save them for easy access later. I have about 5 programs that I use on the bandstand.

Lee, from South Texas[This message was edited by Lee Baucum on 02 September 2000 at 03:50 PM.]

Rich Paton · Post by **Rich Paton** » 2 Sep 2000 5:08 pm

Lee, you've got it...Lexicon wrote the book. But for playing with a Telecaster, what is your thoughts on the sound one could get, using the Lexicon you described...compared to say a Peavey Valverb tube rack reverb unit, or the stand-alone Fender reverb units?
I use the Tele and another guitar with single-coil pickups, with a '62 Blonde Fender Bassman and a 2 x 12" open-back cabinet.
I've never been much of an on-stage effects user, so I'm uninformed when it comes to what works, but that Fender reverb sound is part of the landscape. Will a digital reverb get me close? Thanks.

Lindley · Post by **Lindley** » 3 Sep 2000 1:23 pm

Rich,

I play a Telecaster. I have for many years. I just bought a Lexicon MPX 100 to use with my Emmons, and it opend up a whole new world for my 6 stringing...Its great.

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Steel crazy after all these years.
Emmons Lashley Legrande 111 S-10, Nashville 1000, Peavey Stereo chorus 212, Peavey Classic 50/410, Lexicon MPX 100

Cliff Kane · Post by **Cliff Kane** » 3 Sep 2000 7:03 pm

I use an old BOSS DM-2 analog delay pedal and I love it. You can find these used for not too much, but shop around as the older analog delays are becomimng "collectable" (bummer). I really like the sound of analog units as opposed to digital, although I have heard great things about the Line 6 Pod. This has samples of different delay units, like my DM-2, tape Echo Plex, and others, and has the tap function to tap in the delay time (very cool and intuitive on-the-fly operation). I love my DM-2 though, and for what I use it for (slap back) it sounds warm and tape-like. If I find one for an affordable price I'll snatch up a tape Echo Plex, as nothing beats the sound of tape, IMHO.

Rich Paton · Post by **Rich Paton** » 4 Sep 2000 2:23 pm

Lindley, thanks for your input. So far the MPX-100 "sounds" like it would work for me.
So you think its basic reverb sound will work fine, in place of a tube unit? Also, is it a full-width (19") rack unit, and what are its height and depth dimensions?
Thanks!

Hamilton Barnard · Post by **Hamilton Barnard** » 4 Sep 2000 3:31 pm

I have a Lexicon MPX100, but since I hate to carry equipment and I don't play with reverb (talking about 6 string), I never use the MPX at a gig.

I bought a new Line 6 delay modeler and it sounds fantastic, with either country or rock. If I had one complaint about it that would be it requires a 1200mA AC wall-wart, but that's no problem compared to what this thing has to offer.

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Make mine old...and country.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 4 Sep 2000 7:04 pm

Rich - The MPX-100 is full-width and takes up one space in a rack. I bought an inexpensive 2-space "gig-bag" type of rack. It was less than $50 and works fine for me.

If you get the Lex, I'll share my favorite programs with you. Or you can do a search. I've posted them on the Forum before.

Lee

Ben Jack · Post by **Ben Jack** » 5 Sep 2000 2:24 pm

Is anyone still using a Lexicon PCM 41 and if so how do you compare it to todays offerings?

Michael Brebes · Post by **Michael Brebes** » 6 Sep 2000 4:00 am

In response to the question about the PCM41, I still have one of those units. Excellent sounding delay/chorus/flanging and more adjustments than you'd ever need live. I primarily use it in my recording studio. The MXP100 sounds as good as the PCM41 but doesn't have all the adjustments. In fact, I can't think of another unit that has that many adjustments.
Also, for those looking for just a delay box, I have to agree with the recommendation of the Line 6 Delay Modeler. It is a great sounding and very versatile stomp box. It has 3 programmable presets that are accessible via 3 footswitches and the speed of the delay can be adjusted by tapping the 4th switch or with an optional footpedal. I have found it very easy to reset the delay on the unit using the tap footswitch. It emulates tube echoplex, solid-state echoplex, Roland Space Echo, Boss Analog Delay, and some digital delays. Enough variety to fill any delay need.

Rich Paton · Post by **Rich Paton** » 7 Sep 2000 12:16 am

Thanks to everyone for the Lexicon info! I'm definitely considering one now.
Can anyone tell me how deep the MPX-100 is? I couldn't find this info on the Lexicon webpages! Thanks![This message was edited by Rich Paton on 07 September 2000 at 01:24 AM.]

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 7 Sep 2000 5:13 am

The MPX-100 is real shallow, maybe 5-6 inches deep.

Rich Paton · Post by **Rich Paton** » 7 Sep 2000 6:15 am

Thanks, Jim.

LARRY COLE · Post by **LARRY COLE** » 7 Sep 2000 7:25 am

I use an Alesis Midiverb. I couldn't beleive the difference from the reverb in the Nashville 400. You can use upto 4 effects at once (reverb, delay, chorus....). You can also roll off the hi's on the effects or input signal to get more of an analog or Echoplex sound and you can also set the parameters on the effects. It has 100 factory and 100 user presets. It sounds 100% better than the reverb in the Nashville 400. You can get them for about $239. Mine is in a 1 space rack that sets beside my steel on the floor.

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