Broken Rod

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Matthew Begay
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Broken Rod

Post by Matthew Begay »

Good morning (afternoon/evening) all,

I was practicing for a weekend run out of state to Colorado & New Mexico when one of my E lever rods snapped in half. I’ve never messed with the guitar since I got it and I’ve never tried to move things around underneath.

Looks like I’ll have to do the run with a broken rod, or try to take one from my C6 neck and replace the broken one temporarily.

Anyone know where I can get some more rods for an MSA SuperSustain II? I’m going to attempt to repair it on my own.

I’ve tried contacting MSA themselves on facebook and instagram (earlier this month for L-fret inquiries) to no reply, so I don’t feel like they would be of any help.

Any advice would be awesome, thanks 🙏
God bless you!
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Check the diameter of the rod. It looks like it is a 1/8" aluminum rod. Something went wrong folding the knee level down to put it in case. The rod folded and broke.

Go to an Ace, Home Depo, Lowes or local hardware. In the metal rod and angle bar stock. Get a 3 or 4 foot piece of 1/8" steel rod.
Tools needed, Ruler, Hex wrench that fits the set screws. And a 6 or 8 inch file.
Loosen the set screws that hold the broken pieces of rod, Remove pieces. Lay the pieces together, Measure total length of rod. Measure off proper length of rod on new section. File a pair of opposing V's in the new rod at proper length. Bend back and forth, And break a new length of rod. File and round off sharp edges, On both ends of rod. (To protect your hands and fingers.)
Thread the rod through the holes in the connectors. Tighten 1 set screw down. Adjust the knee lever to proper position. Tighten second set screw. Check lever for proper position, Adjust if needed, for proper fit.
Good luck in this project, Happy Steelin.
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Exactly the same thing happened to me with my MSA. Bobby describes the fix perfectly. It is easy to do and does not require any special parts.
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MSA used stainless rods.. Maybe someone tried to lighten that guitar or something?..
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I'm happy to send you a piece of rod gratis if you'll tell me the length you need Matthew, but there should be a member or someone closer to you in SA since mail takes about a week from here.

I would temporarily hold the broken pieces together while still on the guitar and mark the rod location at the adjustable end and the distance between the 2 actuator parts, match with new rod, so as to keep the action about the same as original for when you replace the rod. That way you will likely have to make only a minor adjustment.

This is a pretty simple repair that I'm sure you are capable of making. Just need the correct allen wrench for the lock screws.
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Some MSA guitar came from the factory with aluminum pull rods. They may have been special order.
I had a MSA D10 Classic, That had several aluminum rods, But it had steel welding rods, Bronze brazing rods and a couple stainless rods. Several rods must have been problems. Someone replaced them with whatever they had handy. I replaced all the rods with stainless steel.
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As Jerry Overstreet has said, this is a pretty a simple and easy fix given you have the correct Allen wrench and the skill. .... if you get amounted with that Allen wrench, you will have some trouble. Just go to Lowes, buy one 1/8 stainless rod, cut to same length, loosen both Allen screws, replace broken rod with good rod, set knee lever position before tightening, then tighten snuggly. 👍🏽
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