What effect is used to get tone in Kentucky rain Eddie Rabbi

Jeremy Marcum · Post by **Jeremy Marcum** » 15 May 2014 8:09 am

I'm trying to figure out what effect was used to get this sound in Eddie Rabbitts Kentucky Rain. I'm not sure who recorded this version with Eddie. I have read somewhere that Bobbe Seymour recorded Kentucky rain with Elvis.
You can hear the sound that I'm talking about at 1:03, 2:40, 2:56 and from 3:28 to the end of the song.
http://youtu.be/PxTD9YVDd38

Mike Wheeler · Post by **Mike Wheeler** » 15 May 2014 2:26 pm

Don't know who it is either, but it sounds like a wah-wah pedal to me...used very slowly.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 16 May 2014 2:25 am

I'm almost sure that it's this effect:

besides two reverb adjustments it features the "Flerb" which has a flowing and shifting sound, this maybe it.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 16 May 2014 9:12 am

Sounds like a flanger to me. That EH pedal I assume has a flanger built it to make the "Flerb" sound. I wouldn't necessarily say it is that particular pedal though. It could be one of many.

Mike Wheeler · Post by **Mike Wheeler** » 16 May 2014 5:39 pm

What I noticed, though, was what seemed to be a controlled sound...as if he was using a foot pedal at just certain passages. Is there a flanger that can be foot controlled?

It's certainly a neat use of that sound effect, at any rate.

Fred Rushing · Post by **Fred Rushing** » 16 May 2014 7:47 pm

Could well be a Small Stone phaser by EH. That was a very popular phaser at that point in time.

Fred

Jeremy Marcum · Post by **Jeremy Marcum** » 17 May 2014 6:18 am

Thanks for all of the suggestions.
Does anyone know who the steel player was on this recording?

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 17 May 2014 11:50 pm

It sounds like a phaser to me, could well be the Small Stone in the "deep" setting.
This song is from 1970, Holy Grail is a much newer pedal.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 18 May 2014 12:15 am

This song is from 1970

Olli, to be exact Elvis recorded the song in '69.
I checked Eddie Rabbit's discography and found his song on an album called "Variations" which is from 1978.
I have the Memphis Record double album by Elvis and the credits list John Hughey as the steel player, I hear him playing on "I'm Moving On", which I think is the only track with steel.

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 18 May 2014 12:42 am

OK

I think the HG was released sometime in the early 2000s, maybe 2002...

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 18 May 2014 1:00 am

And I thought it came from the sixties $:\$

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 18 May 2014 5:10 am

Eddie Rabbi... Sounds like a character in a Kinky Friedman novel

Pete Finney · Post by **Pete Finney** » 18 May 2014 7:46 am

Sonny Garrish played on a lot of Rabbitt's stuff during that period, I'd guess it was him.

Gary Roda · Post by **Gary Roda** » 18 May 2014 8:04 am

Back in those days, "flanging" was a studio effect originally produced by someone dragging their finger on the spinning tape reel; the first electronic studio "flangers" had a manual shift knob that could be positioned or swept manually by the engineer. This effect was only automated into stomp boxes later, so at that date it was most likely created by the engineer during mixdown.

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 18 May 2014 8:22 am

At about 3:20....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1EaPtxhxs

Pete Finney · Post by **Pete Finney** » 18 May 2014 8:22 am

"Stomp-box" flangers had been available for a while by 1978, and there were several phase-shift pedal options.
Sonny Garrish (and others) experimented a lot with those kinds of things, and I'd guess the player got this sound going into his amp, and that it's not something added in the mix.

That would have been a pretty unusual thing in Nashville at the time; I'm pretty sure any effects like this tended to go to tape from the player. (I agree that it sounds a lot like the Small Stone).

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 18 May 2014 8:32 am

Yes. Also, tape flanging was usually applied to the whole mix not individual tracks.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 18 May 2014 8:51 am

As in this song by the Grapefruit, Olli?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1qbQyB37ZQ
I bought the EH pedal because my amp didn't have reverb and when I switched to "flerb", I thought that was exactly what Doug Rodriguez used on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5ec-qokEU
But this was recorded in 1971 so I guess I was wrong.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 18 May 2014 9:08 am

I'm with Pete. I always thought Sonny did most of Rabbit's sessions (just what I heard back in the day). And don't ever put it past Sonny to come up with "different" things.

Don Euton · Post by **Don Euton** » 18 May 2014 4:43 pm

Paul Franklin may have done some of his session steel guitar work. I believe he played on " Second Thought".

Don Euton

Paul Wade · Post by **Paul Wade** » 19 May 2014 8:10 am

here is eddie live great band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhMj9oVMi5o

p.w

Steve Smith · Post by **Steve Smith** » 20 May 2014 10:13 am

It sounds like an envelope filter to me I think MXR made
them.....

Bob Blair · Post by **Bob Blair** » 21 May 2014 12:06 pm

Wow Steve I'd forgotten about my old MXR Envelope Filter! I also had a Small Stone and a thing called the Clone Theory. I actually think I got my Clone Theory after watching you use one with Whiskey River but the memory is hazy. Seems like everyone was buying and discarding stomp boxes with great abandon back then!

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