Cd burner ?

Mike Sigler · Post by **Mike Sigler** » 12 Feb 2012 5:35 pm

Is there a freeware out there so i can copy Cd's
I tried the roxio but it wants to install some crazy toolbar just to get it free..
Anyone have something tried and tested that will work.. I just want to copy my cd's not with media player... ( Take's to long)....
Thanks in advance for the input..
Mike

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 13 Feb 2012 3:17 am

There are several free CD burner programs around.

ImgBurn is one that's popular.
http://www.imgburn.com/

Another is CDBurner XP

http://cdburnerxp.se/en/home

Most of the freebies will not do a disc to disc copy. Nero, what I use for CD burning will do this but it's not free.

The best option is to "rip" (copy) the audio CD to the hard drive and then burn CD's from the hard drive. If you are going to burn more than one copy this is the fastest way to do it. Also, if you want to make more copies later you will already have the files and won't have to rip it again. There are many CD ripper programs around, I like the free "Audiograbber" program. Rip the CD's to the PC's hard drive as wav files NOT Mp3, if you plan on making more standard audio CD's. Wav files are full fidelity and what is used for audio CD's. An MP3 is something less than full fidelity and even if you convert it back to a wav file you will never regain the lost fidelity.

Audiograbber program:
http://www.audiograbber.org/

One final note on burning CD's. Burn at a low speed for compatibility with any audio CD player. I use 8X as my burning speed "standard". Newer PC's with SATA interface burners will only go down to 16X and that can be a problem with very old audio CD players. I burn a lot of audio CD's, for myself and many musicians around the area and at 8X, I've never had one come back as unplayable or as skipping. Also DO NOT use paper labels for the CD's - they can (and will in many cases) flake off inside the audio CD players and can cause failures. Most car companies will not honor warranties if it was found a CD with a paper label was used and caused an in-dash CD player to fail.

Mike Sigler · Post by **Mike Sigler** » 13 Feb 2012 6:31 am

Thanks Jack! I will try this..
Mike

Jos Roderkerken · Post by **Jos Roderkerken** » 15 Feb 2012 9:49 am

img burn is excelent! even use it to burn Nintendo and xbox360 dvd's

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 15 Feb 2012 10:03 am

Ditto on what Jack says about paper labels. I tried to play one in my Silverado CD player and now it'a a boat anchor.

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 15 Feb 2012 11:29 am

Andy Sandoval wrote:Ditto on what Jack says about paper labels.

I made that mistake before I knew better, but I was able get the labels off with isopropyl alcohol and then they worked fine.

Robert Tripp · Post by **Robert Tripp** » 16 Feb 2012 6:46 am

If not paper lables, what? Lightscribe takes way to long, printable CDs require a special lable printer (expensive), what is everyone using, a sharpie?

$:\$

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 16 Feb 2012 1:35 pm

I use an Epson that will print on discs and printable CD's (JVC Taiyo-Yuden high quality CD-R discs).

I burn a lot of discs for local singers and bands so I need the equipment. I have a bank of 5 USB connected burner drives (PATA interface type) and can burn 5 discs at a time. With the PATA drives I can burn at 8X which is my audio CD burning standard.

Mike Sigler · Post by **Mike Sigler** » 16 Feb 2012 2:02 pm

Well i installed the first one you suggested jack, and it installed a funmoods tool bar on my browser, not sure how to remove it, of if i can at all...
oh well back to the drawing board...
Mike

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 16 Feb 2012 3:42 pm

Many programs will have a toolbar and if you are not careful and uncheck the box for it, it will install.

Not a problem to uninstall. Click Start, Control Panel and then "uninstall a program" (or something similar depending on the Operating System Version). Find the toolbar in the list of programs and uninstall it.

Robert Leaman · Post by **Robert Leaman** » 16 Feb 2012 5:52 pm

I have a Plextor PX-B940SA drive running on a SATA bus in a computer with a Pentium Dual-Core 3GHz E5700 CPU. The CPU is overclocked to 4GHz without liquid cooling and does NOT run above 41ºC. Plextor B940SA reads and writes Blu-Ray and most everything else. It will burn at 2X and greater without coaxing and/or special setups.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 16 Feb 2012 6:45 pm

Jack Stoner wrote:... Also DO NOT use paper labels for the CD's - they can (and will in many cases) flake off inside the audio CD players and can cause failures...

Oops

I made hundreds of copies of my CDs and stuck paper labels on then. I hope I don't have hundreds of ex-friends out there with trashed CD players caused by my CDs.

If I do, and you have one, sorry.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 17 Feb 2012 3:49 am

Robert, that will burn at 2X for DVD's, but not CD's. Check again. Manufacturers specs on a burner drive don't specifically state what the lowest Audio CD-R burning speed is. You have to use your CD/DVD burning program with a CD-R loaded in the drive to see what speeds it will burn at. If you check without a CD loaded in the drive it will default to it's highest burn speed.

Mike Sigler · Post by **Mike Sigler** » 17 Feb 2012 5:43 am

I Got It out of there, thanks jack! And if you dont click on the box for the tool bar it won't let the install button come on.. so i guess you install the toolbar then go back and remove it... But it works fine now !
Mike

Robert Tripp · Post by **Robert Tripp** » 17 Feb 2012 6:00 am

Alan Brookes wrote:
Jack Stoner wrote:... Also DO NOT use paper labels for the CD's - they can (and will in many cases) flake off inside the audio CD players and can cause failures...
Oops
I made hundreds of copies of my CDs and stuck paper labels on then. I hope I don't have hundreds of ex-friends out there with trashed CD players caused by my CDs.
If I do, and you have one, sorry.

Maybe we're lucky Alan, I've also made many paper lables on CDs and haven't heard of any problems at all from those who have them. Maybe it's the quality of the lable or possibly the heat or humidity in certain areas that cause the issue.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 17 Feb 2012 8:48 am

I do a lot of support on the Dell users forum. We see the label problem world wide, it's not a regional problem. The grade/quality of labels does not seem to make a difference either. We don't see a huge number, but enough that it is a problem.

Many manufacturers of CD and DVD players warn against using discs with paper labels. These warning are in their user manual that is in many languages so again it's not a regional thing. Many auto manufacturers warn about not using them in the owners manuals.

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 17 Feb 2012 9:59 am

Labels can also cause the disc to warp, and to spin cockeyed if the label's not exactly in the center. The ones I had wouldn't even play in my home unit after a while.

Robert Leaman · Post by **Robert Leaman** » 18 Feb 2012 5:36 pm

Well, Jack, if you attempting to infer the I don't know the difference between a DVD and a CD or if I don't know if there is a disk in the drive, I take that as a personal insult. The drive works perfectly at 2X with a CD-R after I added the capability of 2X.
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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 19 Feb 2012 3:07 am

I'm not infering anything and you can get your nose in a snit if you want to, I could care less. I'm stating that I NEVER saw a SATA drive that would burn CD-R's at less than 16X. And I've seen a lot and do support on several computer forums.

I've been thorough many CD drive vendor sites and other on line sites looking for SATA drives that will burn that low and there were none to be found. Current production PATA drives will only go down to 8X.

Had you stated your case a little differently, I would have responded differently.

Wiz Feinberg · Post by **Wiz Feinberg** » 19 Feb 2012 9:08 am

Robert Leaman wrote:Well, Jack, if you attempting to infer the I don't know the difference between a DVD and a CD or if I don't know if there is a disk in the drive, I take that as a personal insult. The drive works perfectly at 2X with a CD-R after I added the capability of 2X.

Jack Stoner wrote:I'm not infering anything and you can get your nose in a snit if you want to, I could care less.

I hope you guys are done throwing stones at each other. If not, I'll close this topic.

Mike Sigler, how are you making out in your quest for a program to copy audio CDs?

I can tell you that although Nero isn't distributed for free on the Nero website, a free version is bundled with many CD/DVD drives. That's how I acquired it. The free bundled version does disk to disk as well as disk to machine to disk copies.

You may have to read the box specifications carefully to find a burner that still has 8x for burning CDs.

Alternately, look on auction, or clearance sites for new old stock of 4x or 8x CD burners.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 19 Feb 2012 9:50 am

There ae several brands of stand-alone CD burners out there that don't need a computer. They work like an audio cassette recorder, but use CDs. Many of them have several CD units built into them. The usual configuration is one playback and one record/playback unit, but some of them have a turntable or cassette with five or six playback positions and one record position. I use them for making mixdowns of my recordings before I create a master disk.
The only problem with them is that they use Music CDs, not computer CDs. But Music CDs play on any CD player, and there's very little difference in the cost of the blank CDs.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 19 Feb 2012 12:46 pm

Wiz, I didn't start it, the other response could have been much different and still stated what he wanted to state.

Close it if you want, Mike got the information he wanted from the first response I made.

Mike Sigler · Post by **Mike Sigler** » 19 Feb 2012 3:09 pm

Wiz
I am up and running ! All is good in steel guitar land! Thanks everyone for your help!
God Bless.
Mike

Wiz Feinberg · Post by **Wiz Feinberg** » 19 Feb 2012 11:04 pm

I kept this open until I heard from Mike that he has solved his problem.

Now it's time to light em up and move along

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