Sleep Walk as per ORIGINAL version

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 6 Jul 2007 11:20 am

This is from the March Issue of Aloha Dream.
(You don't know what you're missing)

The higher quality is the pdf and the story and discography, here:--->
https://www.facebook.com/download/previ ... 275222170/

or here:-->
http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets ... 20Walk.pdf

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Don Sulesky · Post by **Don Sulesky** » 6 Jul 2007 1:58 pm

Thanks for posting the article.
One of my fondest memories was seeing them live in person in 1960 play that song on stage among others such as Caravan. From that day all I wanted was to play steel guitar but it did not materialize for me until the early 70's.
And yes it was Santo on steel, not Johnny. I also talked to them for about 1/2 hour outside after their performance. What a thrill!!!!
Don

Kevin Ruddell · Post by **Kevin Ruddell** » 7 Jul 2007 12:27 pm

Basil ;

Thanks for posting this , nice job .
Did the label speed up the recording ? My vinyl Lp and Cd of the original recording are identical and a fret higher than the tab

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 7 Jul 2007 6:32 pm

Kevin, releases subsequent to the single are in C# (Probably a mastering fault)
BUT if you watch the video or listen to the sound clip you'll see that the tune was ORIGINALLY played in C.

The url of the video and the soundclip are given in the
first paragraph of page 22 above, but to save you typing them in just click the following links :-

Sound file

Video file

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 9 Jul 2007 1:11 pm

Over 300 views and just 2 replies ?
Less than 1% response !! I should never consider politics.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 9 Jul 2007 5:54 pm

basilh wrote:Over 300 views and just 2 replies ?
Less than 1% response !! I should never consider politics.

The one and only time I posted a soundclip on the Forum I got thousands of views and only one response. The implication is that it was so bad that most people avoided commenting.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 9 Jul 2007 6:21 pm

Basil, I'm sure that a lot of members either saved the images or printed them out. I did.

Thanks

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 11 Jul 2007 12:53 am

Nice work Basil, thank you. I've always been a slob and played it in A6...close, but I always knew something was amiss. That video really answered a lot of questions about this elusive tune.

James Cann · Post by **James Cann** » 11 Jul 2007 8:48 am

I've always been a slob and played it in A6...

(Psst! Should I tell anyone I play it in E9?)

Bernard Beck · Post by **Bernard Beck** » 12 Jul 2007 1:26 am

Great job !
Now you say "you don't know what you're missing" about that Aloha Dream magazine. You've got to tell us more !
Bernard

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 12 Jul 2007 2:03 am

Bernard, there are samples of the magazine to view here :-
Click this

Brian Doyle · Post by **Brian Doyle** » 12 Jul 2007 7:57 am

basil can you tell me the string gauges thanks

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 12 Jul 2007 8:08 am

Brian, I can, but for what scale length ?

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 13 Jul 2007 1:00 am

646 viewings and nobody spotted the deliberate mistake in bar one ?
fret 5 not 6 .. A not Bb ..

Brian Doyle · Post by **Brian Doyle** » 13 Jul 2007 7:07 am

basil fender champ 22"

Bruce Bindeman · Post by **Bruce Bindeman** » 15 Jul 2007 8:43 am

Basil,

I practiced with your version yesterday and signed on to "note" the "mistake" today! I also suspected you did it deliberately since the rest of the piece seems faultless.

I've been using A6 for Sleepwalk, mainly because I don't want to re-tune during a set. We also play Slave Girl and Teardrop. Teardrop probably uses C#m7 also. Slave Girl works best with A6 for me.

What would be the 7th string tuning? Obviously, Santo used an E for the 8th string.

But I notice that if the 7th and 8th strings are tuned to A and F# (from the A6 tuning), the C and A bass notes are available on the third fret during the intro.

I like the 'feel' of the C#m7 tuning you list, too.

Do you use offsets for your tuning, similar to the Peterson offsets John Norris has posted? What would be the right offsets for the minor 3rd and Dom 7th notes?

Regards,

Bruce

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 15 Jul 2007 2:13 pm

Bruce, I'm in the middle of recording something.. I'll reply tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest.
Baz

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 15 Jul 2007 3:08 pm

Have you compared it with this (from another thread) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD4rqYOx9PY

Personally, I'm not keen on the Ventures's re-interpretation.

Bruce Bindeman · Post by **Bruce Bindeman** » 15 Jul 2007 6:43 pm

Alan,

I agree with you.

The Ventures clip is from a history/tribute/performance video made in the 80's featuring guest artists like Peter Frampton, David Johansen, Phil Collins, Robby Kreiger, Josie Cotton, Rick Derringer, etc. All intermixed with interviews with the aforementioned artists and others (Joey Ramone, et al) talking about the Ventures' influence. I got my copy through the Ventures fan club.

Bruce

Bruce Bindeman · Post by **Bruce Bindeman** » 25 Jul 2007 11:24 am

Well, I'm still practicing...I really butchered this tune last weekend. The only change I made (that I know of) was changing the height of the steel just slightly.

Basil, I'm still interested in your feedback!

Bruce

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 25 Jul 2007 11:34 am

OK Bruce, sorry about not responding sooner, kinda busy lately.
You ask "What would be the 7th string tuning? Obviously, Santo used an E for the 8th string.
"
Well the 7th string would be B and the eighth an E, and the sixth string alternating between D and C# depending on the structure of the tune.

As for "Offsets" re tuning, I tune "Straight up".
Bar pressure, Parallax and temperature can alter the pitch more than some of the offsets, so I personally think that the ear and hand correct whatever is PERCEIVED to be out.
Of course If I could play REALLY in tune, most people WOULDN'T know it was me !!

Bruce Bindeman · Post by **Bruce Bindeman** » 25 Jul 2007 12:09 pm

Thanks, I hope you're staying dry.

Bruce

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 25 Jul 2007 12:48 pm

Very dry, there's an ACUTE shortage of DRINKING water.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 25 Jul 2007 4:17 pm

basilh wrote:Very dry, there's an ACUTE shortage of DRINKING water.

Did all that wonderful Welsh water from the Elan dam get polluted with the flooding ? (My grandfather worked on the Elan dam project.)

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 23 Oct 2007 6:56 am

I've just today noticed that Santo used 3 finger picks, see 1:43 on the video
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