Oh-no Here we go again...

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 13 Dec 2002 9:24 am

Hey, Frank's a good guy and a good steeler, and is a regular conventioneer and steel supporter in general (and I'm sure he has the tab for Paul Franklins version of Teach Your Children Well!).

Let's not toss him under the bus just quite yet!

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 13 Dec 2002 9:40 am

Hmmm...Somehow I am visualizing the bus looking something like one of those old VW vans or The Partridge Family bus!

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 13 Dec 2002 9:43 am

Jerry jerry bo berry banana fanna fo ferry fee fi mo merry..........

AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

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Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 13 Dec 2002 9:50 am

Yes, Frank... It does look alot like that!

Scroll down through these pix: http://www.key-z.com/posters.html

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 13 Dec 2002 9:50 am

Jerry Garcia was accomplished on whatever instrument he played, 10-string, 6-string, or 5-string. Dig his banjo playing with Old and In The Way!

cheers,
Drew

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Tony Orth · Post by **Tony Orth** » 13 Dec 2002 10:17 am

If it weren't for Jerry Garcia and Buddy Cage, I would never have taken up the steel guitar.....

....so you can blame them.

Tony

JB Arnold · Post by **JB Arnold** » 13 Dec 2002 12:23 pm

Okay-we'll get Frank a seat in the front right next to Wavy Gravy....He's a traditionalist, of sorts...

Country Garden in the wind and the rain....

JB

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richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 13 Dec 2002 2:24 pm

If you ever wanted to know what 'cabinet drop' is, but didn't want to ask, just listen to Jerry Garcia on 'Teach your children'. The steel is painfully out of tune.

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 13 Dec 2002 3:06 pm

Sorry Richard.Can't blame it on cabinet drop.

Love it or hate it.But cabinet drop was not the problem.
I've always wanted to hear Lloyd Green or Tommy White play this song as if they had never heard Jerry.It would be great.Just my opinion of course.

Steve Frost · Post by **Steve Frost** » 13 Dec 2002 4:48 pm

Wherever he goes, the people all complain

Harry Hess · Post by **Harry Hess** » 13 Dec 2002 4:57 pm

I've said this here before, but I believe the apparant disdain for Jerry Garcia from the steel community dates back to the PSG boom days of the 70's when many of us started to play the PSG. It was those damn polls run yearly by Guitar Player magazine listing him as "world's greatest PSGuitarist". Lloyd Green, Buddy Emmons, and all the rest of the legends trailed behing Garcia. I remember that it used to irk me to. And I know that he was not an actual pedal steel guitarist, just a guitarist who tried to play PSG.

But, all in all, he was a very nice guy. In 1970 I saw the Dead do a freebe on the steps of M.I.T. right off Mass Av. They were helping to break their own gear down afterward and I went up to Jerry and talked to him. He asked, "Are you coming to the show tonight?" I replied that I didn't have a ticket. He reached in his shirt pocket and wipped out a ticket and said "Here, man." I said "Aw, cool man..... but there's this girl that I'd like to...", before I could even finish my sentance he wipped out a second ticket with a knowing smile on his face. Then some other guy came up to invite the band to a Beacon Hill party after their gig. Jerry said they'd be there and I made a mental note of the address.

I showed up at the party and there was Garcia playing his cherry red SG, Kruntzman on a set of congas, Phil Lesh with a piggyback Bassman and Pig Pen playing a Farfisa.

I sat right in front of them. I heard Jerry ask Bill, "Hey man, where's the bathroom?" Kruntzman pointed and said "I think it's down that hall." Being a brazen 18 year old, I walked up to Jerry and asked if I could keep his chair warm till he returned. Without even the slightest hesitation he handed the red SG to me and said, "Go for it, kid." I turned to the guy's and said "How about School Days in G?" They said "take it away, kid". I don't remember how many tunes we did.

I'll never forget that thrill for a young "nobody" kid. Your average rock star would have had me removed from the premises.

I'll always have a place in my heart for him.

I still love to hear "Ripple" and "Box Of Rain". Those were the days.

Regards,
HH

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 13 Dec 2002 5:28 pm

Thanks for the great story, Harry.

JB Arnold · Post by **JB Arnold** » 15 Dec 2002 3:40 pm

There ya go Steve!

Actually, Cage used the cabinet drop on Garcia's steel to play a rather fun joke on him. He'd sit behind Garcia's axe, mash all the pedals and get the strings at the top to change. "See?" he said "You've got this other change here-You should use it more often." Took garcia 2 weeks to get that figured out. Ya gotta take into account everyone's condition in those daze...

JB

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Alan Michael · Post by **Alan Michael** » 15 Dec 2002 4:12 pm

You're right Harry, those were the days. I run into so many people that have a Garcia story. I've got one too, but I can't tell it on grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 15 Dec 2002 5:07 pm

Just remember that not only was Jerry Garica the greatest steel guitarist that ever lived, George Harrison was the greatest sitar player, Jimi Hendris was the greatest guitarist, and Janis Joplin the greatest blues singer.

My grandmother said it best: "Youth is so wonderful. It's a pity it's wasted in children."

Perry Hansen · Post by **Perry Hansen** » 15 Dec 2002 6:23 pm

Jerry Hayes. I didn't mean to sound like I was cutting Jerry Garcia. That was the last thing from my mind. I actually don't know if I have heard the any of his playing. What is some of his songs. I have seen his name mentioned here on the forum at times and I was really interested to find out who he is. As far as knowing who I am. There are very few people that have heard of me because I'm not that good of a player. But I sure have fun at it.
Merry Cristmas

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 16 Dec 2002 2:24 am

Being raised on Ernest Tubb, Jean Sheppard and Ray Price, Jerry Garcia was obviously not my cup of tea. Granted, he was on some really great tunes. I did always think the steel was sort of out of tune. After I started playing steel, I heard it and thought it was Red Rhodes on steel.

As for the Guitar Player polls, Jerry Garcia was the only rock'n'roller, (that I know of,) that played steel guitar. There was, (and still is,) more amatuer rock guitarists that read Guitar Player than any other genre of music.

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