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Larry Beck
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Post by Larry Beck »

As for Forth,

some folks RPN just think in
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b0b
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Yeah, I don't know why we were so fanatical about Forth back then. Maybe it was because you could do so much with it in a limited environment. Assembly was awkward, and C compilers were very slow. But you could build very powerful, complex programs in Forth, and run them in a 64K address space.

Forth paid my rent for 5 years. I have nothing bad to say about it.

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Al Marcus
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Bill Crook- That is the way I heard it. a small company from Seattle had the DOS operating system. As b0b says, IBM went to Gary Kidall in Calif. to get CPM for their new PC(Better than DOS) and didnt connect so went up to Seattle and saw Bill Gates. He bought Dos from the Seattle company, and sold it to IBM but did not give them exclusive rights, so Micorsoft licensed it to other companies PC and the rest is history. Thas is the way I heard it.
I had kaypro CPM computer, but programmed it in business basic....goodnite...al Image
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Post by Donny Hinson »

My biggest accomplishment with computers was getting Doom II to run on a 386SX with 16 megs of RAM! Image

I did some basic programming way back when. The biggest complaint about BASIC was that it was so slow, due to the interpreter. But that was back when a really "fast" (286) processor was running at 16mhz, and you had a "big 4mb" of RAM. Still, I programmed simple arcade games (like the old Space Invaders), and had playable (albeit, not too fancy) versions. I would think that today's gigahertz processors, high buss speeds, fast hard drives, and AGP video cards would make BASIC about a thousand times faster than it used to be.

(Who remembers Commodore's "peeks" and "pokes"?)

Anyhoo, Gates is bitter? Image That's a common affliction among today's billionaires that are worth half of what they were 4 years ago.