Fender Steel King Announcement

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Joe Alterio
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Post by Joe Alterio »

Well, I have to agree with Jerry.....living in Indiana, where just about all the manufacturing jobs have moved either across the border or overseas the past few years, it is important to support businesses that see the NEED to employ local workers. (Think about it.....if all day laborers are laid off here in the U.S., and we're the only ones that could afford to buy these luxury items, who will buy them when nobody's working? Certainly not the people making them!).

Of course, many people have a preconceived notion that all items made in the U.S. are inferior. This is true in some cases, but not all. And in Peavey's case, it is not true at all....Peavey amps are bullet-proof. Take a search on this Forum and you will see hundreds of others talking about their Sessions and Nashvilles falling off of trucks, etc. and still going. Think of all the Sessions that are still in active use...THEY WERE MADE 25 YEARS AGO! And the quality continues today with the Nashville amps. Image

Fender? I hate to say it, but their quality is very suspect anymore (talking amps, not guitars....). Maybe it has to do with the workers at the Mexican plant...but I doubt it. It comes with the problem of the company being so big that it can sell just about anything so long as it has "Fender" stamped on it.....and when that happens, the focus shifts on increasing the bottom line versus creating a quality, durable product. So the workers will put in as much effort as the managers see fit....and if the managers are trying to meet a budget, quality takes a back seat.

I have ranted on and on about the problems I had with TWO new Custom Twin 15" amps (both which I returned)....while only a few Forumites have publicly voiced similar problems/concerns, it is notable that the vast majority have not said much about it at all. My experience on this Forum over the past 5 years has shown that most people tend to not say ANYthing about products if they don't like them....they just keep quiet for the most part lest a flame war start (which is why certain steels are never really talked about....same with this amp).

The Custom 15" has its problems, and when I voiced my concerns on the Fender Forum, the Fender rep responded with a non-answer, if you will. No real concern about the problem, and certainly no solution or explanation. My amp tech did go on about how poorly designed it was for steel guitar applications versusthe Peaveys , especially the cabinet. That kind of says it all. Fender rushed to the market with an amp without really testing it, getting feedback from players, etc....and that's where the problems began.

Is it really any different with this "King" amp? Did they really TEST this thing? When I cranked the Nashville 1000 I had, I did not hear a PEEP out of that cabinet or the baffle board, and the speaker was flawless. The Custom Twin was a nightmare when cranked. So, how about the "King"?

I'm not trying to Fender-bash...I must say that I do love the Fender amp sound. I still own Fender amps. The amps they make today (including the Custom Twin) STILL have that sound, including the sweet reverb. It is always great for consumers to have competition in the marketplace, so I welcome Fender from all of these angles. Yet, if the amp cannot handle stage volumes with NO problem like all of the Peaveys, Evans and (I presume) Webbs have, and if the the customer service that they provide cannot match the personal attention that Peavey provides, then what is their real point of bringing this thing to the market? I can't see most of the people on here throwing money at an unproven product made by a company with a poor quality track record and a 30-year track record of almost completely shunning the pedal steel market.

Maybe I'm not seeing something.....but I thought us steel players are in essence a very particular bunch, where nothing but the best will suffice....while sound quality IS important, doesn't quality construction fare just as important?

Joe<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joe Alterio on 27 July 2004 at 06:58 PM.]</p></FONT>
Jerry Warner
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Post by Jerry Warner »

Only got one reply on the steel king thats put together across the border, I guess enough said on this one.PEAVEY RULES AND IT COMES FROM ACROSS THE BORDER THERE IN MISSISSIPPI. have a nice day.
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Rick Johnson
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Post by Rick Johnson »

Joe
What sort of problems were there with
the cabinet? I can't tell you how many
old Fender amps I have restored with
only the tolex holding them together.
I didn't look to see if the new Steel
King amp had a floating baffle, surely
Fender didn't use a "fixed" baffle.

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Post by Kevin Hatton »

The new Fender Steel King is getting rave reviews from the Nashville pros including Buddy Emmons. Thats good enough for me. Also, I tried a Custom Twin 15 and it blows ANY Peavey amp out of the water for tone and dynamic range. Classis Fender tube sound with crystal clarity at high volumes. I'm getting ready to buy one. Fender is back in the steel amp business. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 28 July 2004 at 06:53 AM.]</p></FONT>